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The Garden Thread - November, 2024
November 1, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 11/01/2024 6:46:36 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Gardening Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies; november
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To: Pollard

Me!!! Grew up in Florida. Love bugs. Hated them being all over the car.


301 posted on 11/23/2024 5:12:12 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I have Kale!

And a steer! (You can feed him the Kale!)

302 posted on 11/23/2024 8:46:59 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: goodnesswins
AFB is right. You can ripen green tomatoes with time in a bag. Ethylene gas is a ripening substance fruits and vegetables naturally produce. Commercial growers load their trays of tomatoes in racks in confined space and bathe them with the gas to ripen picked green tomatoes. (They might also do this in a sealed truck moving produce to market.) Ripening bananas produce a lot of ethylene, you can add a banana to the bag to speed ripening. (I try to pick on color break and bring inside to ripen or I find possum eaten tomatoes lying around the garden.)

Mostly late season green picked Picus tomatoes lazing around waiting to ripen. (Mid November....yes, after the picture I put a bunch of bananas in the bin and covered it to encourage ripening!)

303 posted on 11/24/2024 5:57:02 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pollard

Box Elder Bugs were a MAJOR problem this season; they were in all the door frames of my old VW Golf. Most are gone now, but I’m finding one or two in the house. Ugh!


304 posted on 11/24/2024 6:05:33 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I gave my assistant a large philodendron to take to her husbands new business office. It was a really beautiful plant with the big leaves.

They went into the office one morning and all the leaves had fallen off. The office shared the building with her father’s wholesale tomato business. Some of the ethylene he gassed the tomatoes with penetrated under the door and caused the philodendron to drop it’s leaves.

Bromeliads are notoriously difficult to bloom. However, by placing an apple near the bromeliads, the ethylene the ripening apple gives off will induce the bromeliad to bloom.


305 posted on 11/24/2024 6:07:05 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Kale scraps go to the chickens. ‘Stew’ is still able to graze; we’ve had a warm fall, but it looks like that’s going to all be over but the shoutin’ come ‘Black Friday.’

Arctic Air Mass moving in. Predictable. It had to end sometime. ;)


306 posted on 11/24/2024 6:08:01 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My tomatoes got whacked beleaguered footed beetles this year.

Mynstutal pesticide ( wTer, veg oil, baking powder) which usually kills everything may add well been mouthwash for them.

I don’t like putting spinosad etc on my plants.

I prefer something that isn’t a lab created chemical.

Any of you have suggestions or ideas?


307 posted on 11/24/2024 6:35:59 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (To you all, my loyal spell checkers....nothing but prospect and admiral nation.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I need to add, I keep bees so a lot of the of the shelf stuff is no Bueno


308 posted on 11/24/2024 6:38:55 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (To you all, my loyal spell checkers....nothing but prospect and admiral nation.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Do you mean ‘Leaf-Footed’ Bugs? If so:

“Preventing and Controlling Leaf-Footed Bug Infestations

I’ve found that the key to managing leaf-footed bugs in your tomato garden involves a mix of biological, chemical, and physical strategies. It’s about disrupting their life cycle and making your garden less attractive to these pests.
Natural Predators and Biological Control Methods

Natural predators play a significant role in controlling leaf-footed bugs. I introduce beneficial insects like assassin bugs, ladybugs, and lacewings, which feed on the eggs and young nymphs of these pests. Encouraging birds and spiders in the garden can also provide assistance. I make sure not to disrupt these allies, as their presence offers long-term control.

Organic Pesticides and Insecticidal Soaps

When it comes to pesticides, I’m careful to choose organic options that are less harmful to beneficial insects. Neem oil and insecticidal soaps can be effective against leaf-footed bug nymphs. I mix two tablespoons of pure neem oil with a gallon of water and spray it directly on the tomato plants. For immediate action, pyrethrin-based sprays can quickly knock down visible pests without the long-lasting environmental impact of synthetic alternatives.”

More at link:

https://www.evergreenseeds.com/how-to-get-rid-of-leaf-footed-bugs-on-tomatoes/


309 posted on 11/24/2024 6:50:59 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks


310 posted on 11/24/2024 8:03:00 AM PST by goodnesswins (Don’t be REALITY PHOBIC!)
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To: bert
Bert Leaf drop...an interesting effect! Nice tip for Orchid growers!

https://www.bryair.com/technical-articles/control-of-ethylene-in-fruits-vegetables-warehouses-and-cold-stores/

Abstract

This article explains the repercussions of having high concentrations of ethylene in warehouses and cold stores. Industries that are involved in handling and storage of fruits and vegetables are severely affected monetarily by Ethylene. High concentration of ethylene causes premature aging and rotting of fruits and vegetables and wilting of flowers and leafy vegetables – thus lowering its shelf life…

For anyone interested see discussion at the link!

Some bad effects of ethylene on some common fruits and vegetables are:


Apples: scald
Eggplant: brown spots
Bananas: decay
Potatoes: sprouting
Grapes: mold Onions/ garlic: odor
Broccoli: yellowing
Carrots: bitterness
Carnations: sleepiness
Green leafy vegetables: loss of color

311 posted on 11/24/2024 8:11:14 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Qiviut
Diana! Good deal! Chickens are happy, and you can more fully enjoy your Chicken-Kale fusion protein!

Winter: time to get your hot chocolate, light the fire, grab a blanket, and sit by the window where you can look out and enjoy the snow gently falling! (A body needs a break sometime!)

312 posted on 11/24/2024 8:18:50 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The calves are all getting ear tags as soon as the farmer spots them. The tags are almost as big as their ears! Mamas all have red tags so I think red is for females, green is for males. Of 4 calves I have spotted, 3 tags are red, 1 is green. My cousin says “must be an old bull” ... evidently old bulls tend to sire more females. Learn something new every day!


313 posted on 11/24/2024 11:01:53 AM PST by Qiviut (The mountains are calling & I must go ..... John Muir )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; FamiliarFace
Windshield bugs
I suppose it is regional. Lots in FL but not so much in MO.

One year here in MO we had a cricket bomb. Those weren't windshield bugs but we took a short trip and when we stopped for gas, the pumps were covered and so was the parking lot, crunch, crunch. Also had a bad caterpillar year where the outside of the cabin was covered and the ground appeared to move.

Luckily, I wasn't gardening for either of those years. I think I better get some more chickens.


Just went out and grabbed some Bok Choy and lettuce. I get to try Yellow Heart Winter aka Yellow Flower in the Snow for the 1st time. It develops a yellow center in cold weather.

Mine has a lighter colored center but not quite yellow. Our low so far has been 29 degrees. Maybe the 27 degrees Tues morning will help. The leaves on it are salad worthy. All the other Bok Choy I've been growing has thin, flat floppy leaves. Just tried a chunk of leaf on this and there was no bitterness. The stalks are typical of small bok choy, good for stir fry, saute etc. Salad ingredient + stir fry/saute ingredient from a single plant. I think this variety's a keeper.

314 posted on 11/24/2024 2:09:59 PM PST by Pollard
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To: Qiviut

Never knew they tagged that way, but it makes sense.


315 posted on 11/24/2024 2:21:30 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Deer Season opened at dawn.

Indeed; I live near a large forest, and heard shots first thing. As suburbs have encroached around this large tract of trees and wild grasses, more deer are killed by cars this time of year than by guns. You see them lying beside the road. God bless his dear creatures.

316 posted on 11/24/2024 3:23:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I make a pan of roasted veggies at least once a week. I use them as a side for a meal or two, and then chop them up and use them in an omelette or added to scrambled eggs.

So wonderful on crusty bread with —or without— some fresh mozzarella or feta cheese!


317 posted on 11/24/2024 3:27:33 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Love those guilty looks and the dirt on their snouts! LOL


318 posted on 11/24/2024 4:22:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Qiviut
That just made my day, seeing her walk out with that calf after I’d been watching & wondering if she was leaving the herd to have her calf!!

Wonderful first-hand account! Thanks for sharing!

319 posted on 11/24/2024 4:46:02 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Great idea on the sandwich! Yeah - GOTTA have some cheese! :)


320 posted on 11/25/2024 6:57:20 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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