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Can this innovation change the way people think about HIV?
UNAIDS ^ | 16 October 2024 | 16 October 2024

Posted on 10/22/2024 10:37:30 AM PDT by fwdude

In 2020, a gay Thai man living with HIV sparked controversy with a Facebook post. He was on antiretroviral therapy and had gotten lab tests to check the level of virus in his blood. Since his viral load was undetectable, he wrote, he was going to stop using condoms.

The public responded with a mix of contempt and disbelief. How could he? So selfish! So reckless! The resulting debate spilled from social media onto national radio and TV.

“There was a huge backlash,” remembered Dr Nittaya Phanuphak, the Executive Director of the Institute of HIV Research and Innovation (IHRI). She was telling the story from IHRI’s sunlit offices to teams from Botswana, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Mozambique, South Africa and Zambia. They’d come to Bangkok as part of a learning exchange coordinated by the Global Partnership for Action to Eliminate all Forms of HIV-related Stigma and Discrimination.

Dr Nittaya said that she and her father, Professor Praphan Phanuphak, thought it was their duty to contribute to the public discourse. While the man’s approach might have been unconventional, the science behind his statement was sound.

(Excerpt) Read more at unaids.org ...


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KEYWORDS: aids; disease; gayplague; hiv; homosexualagenda; thegayplague
Like the Cross-dressing friends, the AIDS vectors are now denigrating people who won't have sex with them as "phobic."
1 posted on 10/22/2024 10:37:30 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude
"U = U" is a farce. The "undetectable" status is only valid on the day of the testing. Viral load can rebound within a week of cessation of meds and/or drug resistant viral mutation.

And who's going to just take the word of a potential sexual partner who merely says that they're "undetectable?" That's stupid on steroids.

2 posted on 10/22/2024 10:41:23 AM PDT by fwdude (The cost of freedom is often not being able to experience it, or knowing it was even obtained.)
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To: fwdude

I support his decision, spread death far and wide. I just don’t care, but I think that men and women who are diverga-sexuals should get a tatoo identifying themselves as such. Maybe a special chip that can send a signal to all of the contacts on their phones. ... . I know, not Conservative, or pro-Liberty...or is it?


3 posted on 10/22/2024 10:50:42 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: fwdude

I will always respond to my intuition. If that is phobic, so be it.


4 posted on 10/22/2024 10:52:31 AM PDT by Racketeer
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To: Racketeer

The narrative is insane if you listen to it. Thankfully, this doesn’t affect nearly all the Freepers here (we don’t have “statuses”), but the members of this at-risk “community” will demand that people have sex with the HIV vectors to “prove” you aren’t a phobe.


5 posted on 10/22/2024 10:56:14 AM PDT by fwdude (The cost of freedom is often not being able to experience it, or knowing it was even obtained.)
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To: fwdude

“Innovation” — keep your pecker out of poop chutes.


6 posted on 10/22/2024 11:00:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (It should be illegal to be here illegally. It should be a crime to be committing crimes in the USA.)
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To: fwdude

UNAIDS

The Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) leads and inspires the world to achieve its shared vision of zero new HIV infections, zero discrimination and zero AIDS-related deaths. UNAIDS unites the efforts of 11 UN organizations—UNHCR, UNICEF, WFP, UNDP, UNFPA, UNODC, UN Women, ILO, UNESCO, WHO and the World Bank—and works closely with global and national partners towards ending the AIDS epidemic by 2030 as part of the Sustainable Development Goals. Learn more at unaids.org and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.


7 posted on 10/22/2024 11:09:27 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Why doesn’t this same death wish extend to Covid? if it’s so deadly, why not spread it like HIV?


8 posted on 10/22/2024 11:10:34 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I may have flunked high school but the pigeons have accepted me as their leader, so I have that.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

A who’s who of leftist NWO outfits.


9 posted on 10/22/2024 11:12:10 AM PDT by fwdude (The cost of freedom is often not being able to experience it, or knowing it was even obtained.)
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To: fwdude

Undetectable is a play on words...The most recent tests ability to detect virus is down to about 20 copies per cc of blood. So “undetectable” means less than 20 copies per cc. Hiv is still present. The WHO or UNAIDS act as if “undetectable” means untransmissable.(Not absolutely true)....plus the viral genome integrates itself into host dna....so hiv is always present...those infected...especially if a new mutant arises or the infected misses a few doses can be infectious again.
HIV is exposing the inability of too many humans to control an infectious agent. Both in thought and deed.


10 posted on 10/22/2024 11:57:53 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: fwdude

“While the man’s approach might have been unconventional, the science behind his statement was sound.“

Science is the degree to which we understand d a thing. It is not absolute. I wouldn’t get fast and loose with a virus as smart and experienced as the AIDS virus.


11 posted on 10/22/2024 12:13:29 PM PDT by TalBlack (Fight Fight Fight America https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOJdMog6T0)
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To: Getready

I was wondering if undetectable HIV meant HIV infected wouldn’t prematurely age 14 years, which they do now, even when treated with antiretrovirals. To look up more info, check FR keyword hivacceleratedaging.


12 posted on 10/22/2024 12:56:55 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Getready
The studies on "Undetectable = "Untransmittable" are mostly bogus due to the Hawthorne Effect, the likelihood that test subjects who know they're under lab scrutiny will be on their best behavior. In the real world, results are NOT that cut-and-dry. I can see a time in the near future when these tests will be discounted when more and more homosexuals come down with HIV from "safe" partners, if they even know who they are.

I read on the CDC website that "the only way to know your 'HIV status' is to get tested." That is demonstrably false. Many millions of Americans can know 100% that they are not infected with or at risk of HIV because their responsible behavior guarantees it. Conversely, a test can give a false negative in an at-risk individual when an infection is very recent, so testing is a very poor tool in navigating this needless mine field of sexual risk. That false-negative individual might feel relieved and empowered to sleep around with abandon as a result, infecting many others, being "safe" from being a transmitter.

13 posted on 10/22/2024 1:19:33 PM PDT by fwdude (The cost of freedom is often not being able to experience it, or knowing it was even obtained.)
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To: Glad2bnuts
How could he? So selfish!

Well...he is gay, after all.

I support his decision, spread death far and wide.

I fail to see a downside to his decision. The more partners, the better.

14 posted on 10/22/2024 2:01:10 PM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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