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To: fwdude

Undetectable is a play on words...The most recent tests ability to detect virus is down to about 20 copies per cc of blood. So “undetectable” means less than 20 copies per cc. Hiv is still present. The WHO or UNAIDS act as if “undetectable” means untransmissable.(Not absolutely true)....plus the viral genome integrates itself into host dna....so hiv is always present...those infected...especially if a new mutant arises or the infected misses a few doses can be infectious again.
HIV is exposing the inability of too many humans to control an infectious agent. Both in thought and deed.


10 posted on 10/22/2024 11:57:53 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Getready

I was wondering if undetectable HIV meant HIV infected wouldn’t prematurely age 14 years, which they do now, even when treated with antiretrovirals. To look up more info, check FR keyword hivacceleratedaging.


12 posted on 10/22/2024 12:56:55 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Getready
The studies on "Undetectable = "Untransmittable" are mostly bogus due to the Hawthorne Effect, the likelihood that test subjects who know they're under lab scrutiny will be on their best behavior. In the real world, results are NOT that cut-and-dry. I can see a time in the near future when these tests will be discounted when more and more homosexuals come down with HIV from "safe" partners, if they even know who they are.

I read on the CDC website that "the only way to know your 'HIV status' is to get tested." That is demonstrably false. Many millions of Americans can know 100% that they are not infected with or at risk of HIV because their responsible behavior guarantees it. Conversely, a test can give a false negative in an at-risk individual when an infection is very recent, so testing is a very poor tool in navigating this needless mine field of sexual risk. That false-negative individual might feel relieved and empowered to sleep around with abandon as a result, infecting many others, being "safe" from being a transmitter.

13 posted on 10/22/2024 1:19:33 PM PDT by fwdude (The cost of freedom is often not being able to experience it, or knowing it was even obtained.)
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