Posted on 10/17/2024 9:08:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has reportedly told NATO to let his country join the group or it will get nuclear weapons in a shock ultimatum that was allegedly backed by Donald Trump.
The leader, 46, declared his bombshell proposal at the EU summit in Brussels - stating either NATO quickly accepts Ukraine into its alliance, or it will once again become a nuclear power, reports Bild.
Zelensky had reportedly planned to present what is being dubbed his 'victory plan' to the heads of state and government of the European Union, but instead made the dramatic announcement to stunned reporters on Thursday afternoon.
Speaking to the former American President Donald Trump, 78, some weeks ago, the Ukrainian leader declared: 'Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, and then they will be our defense.
'Or we will have to enter into some kind of alliance. Apart from NATO, we do not know of any effective alliances today.'
He said Trump had agreed with his proposal before he made the statement at the summit, insisting that a membership to NATO would provide his country with the ultimate security guarantee to protect it from Russia.
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” may the fickle finger of fate find thee!”
Ukraine should seek neutrality, like Switzerland, it could enjoy the same business arrangement with the EU and also with Russia, with the natural resources in that region its economy would flourish.
This was a manufactured conflict, hundreds of thousands have died for no reason whatsoever.
NY Times? lol! Put down the crack pipe.
Oh there’s a reason. It’s just not the reasons you’re being sold on by the news and z posters on FR.
The knowledge of how to make nuclear weapons is easily available.
Ukraine has enormous incentives to produce nuclear weapons.
Only countries with nuclear weapons have been shown to be respected by the great powers.
If you do not have nukes, you are subject to destruction at the whim of policy changes.
Just ask Kadafi in Libya. Ask the Serbs.
Is destroying Ukraine worth the destruction of Moscow, or even St. Petersburg to Russia/Putin?
Ukraine's existence as a political entity is at stake. Russia existence is not at stake. This makes Ukraine's threat more credible.
Remember, Ukraine had many of the most advanced technological assets in the old Soviet Union.
“ Marcusmaximus is the same guy who posts NYTimes articles critical of both Conservatives and the USA.”
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Don’t know about that but he/she/it is certainly a ONE-TRICK PONY who doesn’t possess a desire to advance AMERICA’S interests.
The most dedicated advocates of wasting hundreds of $Billions of taxpayer money to continue the slaughter of Ukrainian and Russian men in an effort to start WWIII have mostly started to fade into obscurity. But a few stubbornly holds on. The following meme would seem to apply:
I would suggest Russia should just go for a head shot.
Since I currently live on that corruption sponsering farcical snake head I am lookung up for my redemption draweth nigh.
I’ll give it two weeks before the Russians decide to turn off the lights in The Ukraine for good.
https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/ua/kyiv/50.39,30.61
Ukraine gave up the nukes stationed on their soil because we told them to. They were incapable of maintaining them, and the nukes were useless for defense anyway as they did not possess the launch codes.
As Ukraine was the world’s most corrupt country, we feared they would sell off the nuclear material to bad actors to make a “dirty bomb” (a real possibility). For the same reason, we took over their bioweapons labs and cleaned them out, and paid their scientists nice salaries to keep them from defecting to enemy states or terrorist organizations. (Note: Contrary to what some beleve, the “biolabs” operating in Ukraine were not bioweapons labs, but standard infectious disease surveillance labs, same as we operate in many countries around the world.)
Lastly, in reply to your “If you want to keep Ukraine from getting nukes, then give them the support they need.” — what they need are weapon systems we have run out of and more boots on the ground. You want to recruit your children and grandchildren to put on their boots?
If I were Putin, I would have finished off Ukraine's electric grid a year ago.
We have to remember that the main purpose of the Special Military Operation is to totally destroy the armed forces of The Ukraine.
Trying to create a new history based on lies is something a Russian propagandist would do.
When we do it in the service of the criminal narco-terrorist KLA/UCK, it’s just dandy. When Russians do it, it’s eee-villl!
NATO Warplanes Jolt Yugoslav Power Grid
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/stories/belgrade052599.htm
War is he!!.
The Daily Mail article left out Zelensky’s proposal to have Ukrainian troops replace many of the US troops assigned to duty in Europe. That would allow the USA to reduce our military spending and let the Europeans have a totally European based NATO.
That is a foolish argument. Anyone with physical custody of such a device could re-program the detonator to have a different code.
LOL
Many articles posted.
In the fwiw department, the Ukes could have nukes in about 6 months. The U235, the knowledge, chemistry, and machining abilities to do it. Not sure of delivery capacity.
Problem is testing it.
If Japan so chooses to go nuclear, it would take less than six weeks to have a deliverable weapon. They would have to test it.
It would be a good idea if all parties called a ceasefire in place.
5.56mm
No nukes, no respect.
True dat.
With physical possession they could have just replaced the launch module. Remember that there were many Ukrainian scientists and engineers in the Soviet nuclear program.
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