Posted on 10/17/2024 9:08:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has reportedly told NATO to let his country join the group or it will get nuclear weapons in a shock ultimatum that was allegedly backed by Donald Trump.
The leader, 46, declared his bombshell proposal at the EU summit in Brussels - stating either NATO quickly accepts Ukraine into its alliance, or it will once again become a nuclear power, reports Bild.
Zelensky had reportedly planned to present what is being dubbed his 'victory plan' to the heads of state and government of the European Union, but instead made the dramatic announcement to stunned reporters on Thursday afternoon.
Speaking to the former American President Donald Trump, 78, some weeks ago, the Ukrainian leader declared: 'Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, and then they will be our defense.
'Or we will have to enter into some kind of alliance. Apart from NATO, we do not know of any effective alliances today.'
He said Trump had agreed with his proposal before he made the statement at the summit, insisting that a membership to NATO would provide his country with the ultimate security guarantee to protect it from Russia.
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You are spamming us with the same news, as if that makes it somehow more relevant or true.
This story doesn’t make a lot of sense for a lot of different reasons.
It also points out why Trump probably shouldn’t have talked to him at this time.
First of all Zelensky can make all the declarations he wants but where would Ukraine obtain a nuclear weapon?
No one is going to let them join NATO in the middle of an active war which would usually mean that NATO immediately becomes involved.
As for what Trump really will do if he’s elected, that becomes an interesting question.
Lets see what Trump really said to Mr. Z. As for nukes, he could put together a good dirty bomb using old spent rods from a reactor, maybe buy or steal enough for a single nuke. But if used on Ru.ssia, all it would get is a full nuke attack from Putin
You're insane, Marcus. IDIOTS with your mentality are greater danger to American citizens than the Russians are.
I do not believe this. I do believe he was threatened by the Biden Harris administration to say this. Tonight on the evening news they will be saying, "Trump will get us in a nuclear war."
How many Americans do you want to see die in Ukraine fighting the Russians, Marcus? Tell us.
You can thank Putin’s corrupt buddy Shoigu for selling Russian nukes to Ukraine.
Now you think his claim that Trump supports him is going to change our position? First off, we know that Zelenskyy has a propensity to lie, and this claim is yet another lie by him.
If I remember right, at one time Ukraine had nuclear weapons and the US and Russia talked them into giving them up on the promise that the US and Russia would provide military support to them if needed. I wonder if they may have squirreled some away and may end up using them.
President Trump is the one who will settle the war and it was smart for Zelensky to inform him of the Ukrainian position on security guarantees.
You are proof that one drop of contamination can ruin whatever it is mixed with, you are ruining FR with your idiocy. Your posts are pure propaganda and your comments read like they were written by a crap-throwing monkey. Go away and get help.
Tell Putin to give up his nukes.
“If I remember right, at one time Ukraine had nuclear weapons and the US and Russia talked them into giving them up “
No... that is the pop culture story. But Ukraine never had any. Some Soviet nukes, controlled by Moscow physically existed there when the USSR ended. But they were never owned, commanded or operated by Ukraine. They were removed rather than allowing them to get handed over to Kiev. Today is probably why.
The Ukrainian military never had a commander of nuclear forces. Kiev had zero operational control because they did not own them. And that security guarantee was for non-aligned military status.
But in any case, those agreements were dead when the nazi coup took over the Ukrainian government. The Uke government ended in violent over throw, and now a new one is there. They don’t inherit everything the old government had.
It is interesting that those complaining about Ukraine getting nukes have no problem with Russia playing that card. Ukraine gave up its nukes in return for guarantees to respect its borders. That did not work very well. And if you pull the west’s support, as some here want to do, then you cannot blame them for seeking their own resources. If you want to keep Ukraine from getting nukes, then give them the support they need.
If the USA had not insisted on Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons in the 90s none of this would be happening right now.
Marcusmaximus is the same guy who posts NYTimes articles critical of both Conservatives and the USA.
“Tell Putin to give up his nukes.”
Your critical thinking skills are nonexistent. Why don’t you wish for bankers to give up all of their money? You are all kinds of “special” so I am going to guess that you ate a lot of lead paint chips as a child in the Ukraine.
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