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It’s not absurd to keep asking GOP leaders who won the 2020 election
The Washington Post ^ | October 7, 202412:51 PM EDT | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 10/08/2024 12:52:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, got tripped up this weekend by a question that should not have fazed a high-schooler with a moderate degree of civic awareness: Who won the 2020 election?

Johnson and other Republicans say the question is a trap. But it’s one they have set for themselves.

When George Stephanopoulos asked Johnson on “This Week” to acknowledge that Joe Biden had won the election and Donald Trump lost it, Johnson complained that the ABC anchor was playing “a gotcha game.” He went on, “You want us to litigate things that happened four years ago when we’re talking about the future.” Sen. JD Vance (Ohio) had used the same dodge a few days earlier, during the vice-presidential debate.

On a second pass, Johnson said, “Joe Biden has been the president for four years. There’s not a question about this, okay?” He added 185 words on all the topics this exchange was keeping him from addressing. At no point did he say that Trump lost or Biden won.

What’s absurd is not the question but the fact that it has to be asked. All Johnson had to do to be able to move on to the topics he prefers was tell the truth, which can be done succinctly: Biden won. (He could have added an “unfortunately.”)

One reason the 2020 question keeps getting asked is that Trump himself won’t drop the subject. He recently claimed he won Michigan in 2020. He did not. A few weeks ago, he even said that only fraud had kept him from winning California.

The people Trump has gulled into thinking he won in 2020 are wrong about a lot of things, but give them credit for this much: If...

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To: hinckley buzzard; E. Pluribus Unum

Excellent summary of the situation that satisfies the question yet leaves the lingering larger questions as discussion points to be explored with data like that in the initial reply by E. Pluribus Unum.


21 posted on 10/08/2024 1:55:31 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The asfe answer would be “I don’t think we know. That’s what January 6th was all about. We need to investigate.”


22 posted on 10/08/2024 2:20:50 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They should say “you’re asking the wrong question,you should be asking who stole the election.”


23 posted on 10/08/2024 2:28:35 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The WaPo lies. Don’t believe them, don’t trust them. Name one other presidential election where the counting of ballots were halted in the swing states, ~11:00 p.m., almost simultaneously (WI, MI, PA, GA, AZ)?

Hey WaPo, hey NYT, GFY.


24 posted on 10/08/2024 2:30:01 PM PDT by thepoodlebites (and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Who won the 2020 election" is the biggest open secret in Washington.

Of course they know Trump won, we know that Trump won, and they know we know that Trump won.

25 posted on 10/08/2024 2:37:43 PM PDT by PallMal
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"It’s not absurd to keep asking GOP leaders who won the 2020 election"


26 posted on 10/08/2024 3:06:21 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

IIRC, PDJT is suing little Georgie for defamation.

ABC soiled its toilet reputation once again during the Trump/Harris “debate.”

So why the hell do ANY Republicans appear on ABC fake news?


27 posted on 10/08/2024 3:09:36 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: wiseprince

And also ask Democrats if they remember Joe Biden bragging before the 2020 election that they had the great voter fraud organization in history.


28 posted on 10/08/2024 3:28:14 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Jacquerie

Exactly, they’re just playing right into the hand of the rat party.


29 posted on 10/08/2024 3:33:42 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Your numbers regarding the number of counties won is different from what I have recorded. I wish now I had recorded the source of my numbers. I think they were from the New York Times, but I’m not sure.

However, the total vote counts are the same. As you report, Obama won 69,000,000 votes in 2008 and Biden “won” 81,000,000 votes in 2020. That’s a 17% increase.

I looked up the population estimates for the years 2008 and 2020 with the U.S. Census Bureau data and found that the population grew only 9% during that time, but Biden is supposed to have won 17% more votes, almost double the increase in population. That’s very hard to believe.


30 posted on 10/08/2024 4:07:40 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He won... now ask them about Michelle Obama and her penis...


31 posted on 10/08/2024 4:38:32 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984 (Make 1984 fiction again.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In most of the 50 states, they rigged most if not all the top 20 counties by population.

After you drop down into the less populous counties (around 30 on the lists), Obama's 2008 vote totals beat Joe's 2020 "vote" totals.

It's clear-cut.

32 posted on 10/08/2024 6:06:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: libertylover
In most of the 50 states, they rigged most if not all the top 20 counties by population.

After you drop down into the less populous counties (around 30 on the lists), Obama's 2008 vote totals beat Joe's 2020 "vote" totals.

It's clear-cut that they were rigging it somehow. I don't like to speculate on exactly how, but it looks to me like it has something to do with distance from a central point in the affected counties. Like, about an hour's drive [between 40-60 miles].

Everyone looks at the vote totals without looking at the map.

33 posted on 10/08/2024 6:11:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: kiryandil

I find it hard to believe that they rigged in most of the 50 states. Here in Kentucky Trump won about 60-40 or better so I don’t think they’d bother trying to rig that.

But I believe they rigged in every battleground state.


34 posted on 10/09/2024 7:27:10 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: libertylover
I find it hard to believe that they rigged in most of the 50 states. Here in Kentucky Trump won about 60-40 or better so I don’t think they’d bother trying to rig that.

They were rigging it for the popular vote count.

Just ekeing out a "victory" in the swing states by 10 or 20 thousand wouldn't cut it for the narrative.

I was doing my Obama 2008 Vote Fraud detector workup for Massachusetts when I noticed it.

"Why is there a massive turnout here in Massachusetts? The entire state is blue. Why bother?"

They needed the extra "votes" to tack on to the popular "vote".

Massachusetts 2008: Obama    -  1,904,097
Massachusetts 2020: JoeTatoe -	2,382,202

The Tater got 478,105 more votes than The Lightbringer got in 2008. Half a million eager "voters"...

35 posted on 10/09/2024 7:58:09 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: libertylover
I did some work on the Kentucky gubernatorial races in 2019 and 2023, but I didn't do the 2008 through 2020 presidential campaigns workup.

If I get some time, I'll take a quick look. Takes about a half hour to an hour, but I've got some auto work I have to do.

36 posted on 10/09/2024 8:01:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: libertylover
One of the big centers of the Kentucky ballot pumping seems to be Fayette County - they got four of the surrounding counties and pumped their Biden numbers, too.

Same with Jefferson County.

37 posted on 10/09/2024 8:59:02 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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