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It’s not absurd to keep asking GOP leaders who won the 2020 election
The Washington Post ^ | October 7, 202412:51 PM EDT | Ramesh Ponnuru

Posted on 10/08/2024 12:52:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Mike Johnson, the speaker of the House, got tripped up this weekend by a question that should not have fazed a high-schooler with a moderate degree of civic awareness: Who won the 2020 election?

Johnson and other Republicans say the question is a trap. But it’s one they have set for themselves.

When George Stephanopoulos asked Johnson on “This Week” to acknowledge that Joe Biden had won the election and Donald Trump lost it, Johnson complained that the ABC anchor was playing “a gotcha game.” He went on, “You want us to litigate things that happened four years ago when we’re talking about the future.” Sen. JD Vance (Ohio) had used the same dodge a few days earlier, during the vice-presidential debate.

On a second pass, Johnson said, “Joe Biden has been the president for four years. There’s not a question about this, okay?” He added 185 words on all the topics this exchange was keeping him from addressing. At no point did he say that Trump lost or Biden won.

What’s absurd is not the question but the fact that it has to be asked. All Johnson had to do to be able to move on to the topics he prefers was tell the truth, which can be done succinctly: Biden won. (He could have added an “unfortunately.”)

One reason the 2020 question keeps getting asked is that Trump himself won’t drop the subject. He recently claimed he won Michigan in 2020. He did not. A few weeks ago, he even said that only fraud had kept him from winning California.

The people Trump has gulled into thinking he won in 2020 are wrong about a lot of things, but give them credit for this much: If...

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OBAMA 2008
* 69,000,000 votes
Wins 873 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
WINS House seats
***WINS ELECTION***
TRUMP 2020
* 74,000,000 votes
Wins 2497 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
WINS House seats
***LOSES ELECTION***
BIDEN 2020
* 81,000,000 votes
Wins 477 Counties
LOSES 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
LOSES Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
LOSES House seats
***WINS ELECTION***

1 posted on 10/08/2024 12:52:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

as long as you continue to ask Democrat leaders if they’re ok with the idea of sleeping your way to the top.


2 posted on 10/08/2024 12:54:49 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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3 posted on 10/08/2024 12:55:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ask these same people who won the 2000 election, 2004 election, and 2016 election..I’ll wait


4 posted on 10/08/2024 12:56:09 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And its not absurd for GOP leaders to answer, citing the vast amounts of absurd electoral data, the deep-state and CIA interference with Hunter’s laptop, the proven censorship of social media, the days-long counting in swing states, the mass use of untraceable mail-in ballots, corporate paid-for drop-boxes, etc. etc..


5 posted on 10/08/2024 12:56:36 PM PDT by PGR88
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6 posted on 10/08/2024 12:57:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Dim media who told us that Biden got 81 million votes and to vote for him again in 2024, is the same Dim media who tells us that Kamala is electable even though she can’t even win the Dim primary.


7 posted on 10/08/2024 12:57:29 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Trump won but he was crooked out of it. B the Republican and Democrat Politicians.
8 posted on 10/08/2024 12:58:46 PM PDT by sport
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just say that BiXiden was duly selected and leave it at that.


9 posted on 10/08/2024 1:05:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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It’s not absurd to keep asking GOP leaders who won the 2020 election

No it isn't. Eventually they may admit the truth that Trump did in fact win, but corrupt people in the election apparatus faked a Biden "win."

And *THEY* went along with it.

10 posted on 10/08/2024 1:08:08 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Answer to that question is “TRUMP DID”


11 posted on 10/08/2024 1:12:25 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

OBAMA 2008
* 69,000,000 votes
Wins 873 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
WINS House seats
***WINS ELECTION***

TRUMP 2020
* 74,000,000 votes
Wins 2497 Counties
Wins 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
Wins Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
WINS House seats
***LOSES ELECTION***

BIDEN 2020
* 81,000,000 votes
Wins 477 Counties
LOSES 18 of 19 Bellwether counties
LOSES Florida, Ohio, and Iowa
LOSES House seats
***WINS ELECTION***

______________________

The lesson here is: Just a few manufactured votes in a few key states can determine the outcome of an election.


12 posted on 10/08/2024 1:15:53 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ramesh, do you believe the media lied when they continued to insist that Biden was “sharp as a tack”?

Ramesh, do you believe the media lied when they continued to insist that the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian op?

Ramesh, do you believe the media lied when they continued to insist that the mRNA vaccines were “safe and effective”.

Ramesh, why do Democrats continue to sue states who close their border?

Ramesh, why do Democrats keep suing states who remove illegals and dead people from voter rolls?

Ramesh, why does Kamela require a picture ID to get into her rallies but claims IDs are racist for voting?

Ramesh, why did multiple swing states, in near perfect precision, stop counting ballots at around 3 a.m.?

Ramesh, as reported, do you believe there were over 200 FBI assets on J6, including Ray Epps?

Ramesh, did the FBI plant pipe bombs on J6?

When the corrupt MSM starts doing deep investigations into these matters, rather than writing some stupid AI article simply proclaiming, “It’s false, because we say it’s false,” then we can have a meaningful discussion. How come Ramesh and his corrupt buddies never circle back and ask Hillary or Stacey Abrams about “stolen elections”. Heck, Hillary still says 2016 was stolen, but not a peep, and no interest.


13 posted on 10/08/2024 1:20:02 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just like they kept asking the Democrats who won the 2000, 2004, and 2016 elections, right?

And the 2018 gubernatorial elections in Georgia and Florida, right?


14 posted on 10/08/2024 1:21:12 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bullshit. It was a stolen election and everybody knows it. And this so-called conservative rider is from national review, national affairs, The American enterprise Institute that gives out its annual bill Kristol award, and the Washington post. So here we are four weeks before the election, and he thinks it’s important for everybody to run out and genuflect to the Democrat agenda and pretend the election wasn’t stolen.


15 posted on 10/08/2024 1:21:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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The majority of the American people believe it was stolen, so there’s that.


16 posted on 10/08/2024 1:22:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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“The majority of the American people believe it was stolen”

The Democracy has spoken.....


17 posted on 10/08/2024 1:25:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The correct answer to this question should be: “Do you really believe that Joe Biden got 20% more votes in 2020 than Hillary Clinton got in 2016”?


18 posted on 10/08/2024 1:26:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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It’s true, republicans are so clumsy. The answer is, when the electoral college votes were certified by Congress, Biden became the president. Did he win the most votes of the people? We’ll never know for sure. Was the election honest and above board? We’ll never know that for sure either. So what’s your point?


19 posted on 10/08/2024 1:36:26 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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Maybe that there is the drop dead answer

“when the electoral college votes were certified by Congress, Biden became the president”

Next topic ….


20 posted on 10/08/2024 1:54:01 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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