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As rioters stormed Capitol with Pence inside, Trump said ‘so what,’ filing alleges
The Washington Post ^ | October 2, 2024 at 4:34 p.m. Updated October 2, 2024 at 5:16 p.m. EDT | Spencer S. Hsu and Josh Dawsey

Posted on 10/02/2024 4:27:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Special counsel Jack Smith laid out new evidence to support his assertion that Donald Trump’s efforts to subvert the results of the 2020 election were taken as a private candidate, rather than his official capacity as the president, in a much-anticipated 165-page filing unsealed Wednesday that detailed Trump’s private interactions with his vice president and others.

The filing described what the then-president told key figures in his orbit, including vice president Mike Pence, attorney Rudy Giuliani and senior White House and Republican Party officials, though it shielded some of their names. It also detailed what Trump was doing on Jan. 6, as his supporters stormed the Capitol, describing a scene in which he expressed ambivalence after an aide rushed to the dining room to share that action was being taken to ensure Pence’s safety.

“The defendant looked at him and said only, ‘So what?’"” the filing alleges.

The filing is a key part of the special counsel’s attempt to show that Trump can still face trial for attempting to overturn Joe Biden’s electoral victory after the Supreme Court ruled he was immune from prosecution for official acts. It outlined in more extensive detail than before how many people — including the vice president, party and state leaders, his own campaign officials, his own campaign lawyers and others — told Trump there was no proof the election was stolen.

The filing provides the most exhaustive account yet of Pence’s conversations with Trump, alleging that the vice president repeatedly tried to encourage Trump to back off his claims of a stolen election. It alleges that one of Trump’s lawyers repeatedly told Trump they could not substantiate any of his claims, nor outside consultants they hired.

The lawyer told Trump the claims were “bulls---,” and...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: arrestgarland; arrestjacksmith; dojsedition; electioninterference; fakenews; packoflies; sowhatwapo; washingtoncompost
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Trump had no authority there - it was Nancy Pelosi.


Trump was acknowledging his limits and not breaking the law.


There are pictures of Pence there celebrating with Pelosi - and she was running the show.

21 posted on 10/02/2024 4:44:32 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (She hails from the Slave Masters - A family of Sugar Plantation Oligarchs)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Democrats one final desperate attempt to apply electric shock to these “Frankenstein Cases”. Unfortunately for them voters haven’t cared about any of the Trump legal cases thus far and some Kamala Campaign document posing as a court filing isn’t going to change that. Oh, the media will still try and run with it for a day or two, but it will be DOA by the weekend.


22 posted on 10/02/2024 4:48:18 PM PDT by apillar
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why doesn’t anyone bring up that they started their unarmed conflagration 11 minutes before Trump said “Let’s go peacefully”?????

Personally I would not have said “So What”? when informed Pence was being protected.

I might have said “And then?”


23 posted on 10/02/2024 4:49:30 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: wildcard_redneck

I call him traitor Pence.


24 posted on 10/02/2024 4:53:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (You may call me blind, deaf and dumb but I'm sill a Pinball Wizard.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The defendant looked at him and said only, ‘So what?’””
= = =

Biden looked at NC flooding and said, So What.


25 posted on 10/02/2024 4:53:24 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Smith is writing a NETFLIX mini-series


26 posted on 10/02/2024 5:03:05 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

oh sure

even my dog rolled his eyes


27 posted on 10/02/2024 5:03:10 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (there will come a day when FR rejects articles from the NYT, et al. as "Commie trash, no thank you"e)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Video or audio? Any official docs?

Politics is high school culture, the sequel.


28 posted on 10/02/2024 5:04:52 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So what? Did he check his watch?

As I recall, Trump was speaking when the people were let in to the capitol. I didn’t hear him say anything.


29 posted on 10/02/2024 5:06:16 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We don’t even have a name to link to particular statements. This is no different that saying “Anonymous sources”. And so the American people cannot consider the source and Trump does not get to respond to his accuser. And a lot of it is most This is evil and purely election interference. Just proving once again how dirty and evil the democrats are.


30 posted on 10/02/2024 5:06:30 PM PDT by Revel
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And when the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence asked Hillary if the attack in Benghazi that ended up with the murder of an American Ambassador and three American civilians was caused by a protest, her reply was: “Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?”

Sorry Hillary, but if my loved one was murdered under your supervision, you bet your sweet ass it matters knowing exactly why the attack occurred, and why he died during that attack. This corrupt bitch should have been strung up by the neck for being so arrogant and flippant in her response.

And on top of it, Obama was MIA the whole night, and to this day, it has never been reported where he was during the whole attack and aftermath.

31 posted on 10/02/2024 5:09:08 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Revel

How would it hold up in “court” if there is no person to testify and cross examine?


32 posted on 10/02/2024 5:11:41 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He said: “So what?” So what?


33 posted on 10/02/2024 5:13:23 PM PDT by exinnj
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nothing muffin again


34 posted on 10/02/2024 5:14:08 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah... Sure... Historical revisionism at its finest...

Is extermination the only long-term solution?


35 posted on 10/02/2024 5:14:20 PM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trump looked at the aide and said only, “So what?”

Good answer.

36 posted on 10/02/2024 5:15:46 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: vivenne

It, by itself with nothing more, is NOT evidence and will not hold up. Real Evidence needs to be authenticated and have a foundation laid before it can even be considered actual evidence


37 posted on 10/02/2024 5:16:55 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: lurk
Politics is high school culture, the sequel.

Rush Limbaugh used to say that politics was show business for ugly people.

38 posted on 10/02/2024 5:17:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
THIS is why the, not a real boy, filed this "October Surprise"{.

To get people to talk about something already talked about.

Let's be careful not to drink the kool ade.

39 posted on 10/02/2024 5:23:13 PM PDT by knarf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Everyone knows that if someone reports you said “so what?” during a protest that means an automatic jail sentence. For life.

How dare he!?!


40 posted on 10/02/2024 5:25:48 PM PDT by CFW
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