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Can my ex-employer obligate me to open a safe that I was the only one to know the combination?
August 17, 2024 | jonty30

Posted on 08/17/2024 9:44:43 PM PDT by Jonty30

Just a random question, but relevant for some of us older workers.

Hypothetical situation, if a business fires you or lays you off, but they realized after that you had knowledge about the business, like a combination to a safety that nobody else had, can they legally make you give it up to them?


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1 posted on 08/17/2024 9:44:43 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Following.


2 posted on 08/17/2024 9:47:12 PM PDT by madison10
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Legally, no. Possibly yes if you were still employed by them, and only firing could be the repercussion. I would think they’d just have a professional come open it then change the combination.


3 posted on 08/17/2024 9:47:27 PM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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Pull a Hillary. I don’t recall that. (Same thing as eff off). Just better in court.


4 posted on 08/17/2024 9:49:56 PM PDT by Equine1952
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Don’t know about the legalities, but I would give it to them (presuming I legitimately remembered it).

It’s the honorable thing to do.

It’s not about the company; it’s about your personal integrity.


5 posted on 08/17/2024 9:50:32 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (🇺🇸✝️🙏🇮🇱)
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Set up a business as a contractor- charge them 4 hours minimum and a very high hourly rate to open the safe.

That said, my amateur opinion is no they cannot force you to do any work as you are not their employee.


6 posted on 08/17/2024 9:51:22 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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Why would you not? Spite?


7 posted on 08/17/2024 9:52:16 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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I don’t think they can legally make you. If you don’t want to do it and they start putting pressure on you...tell them you also know other things about the business...that others just might want to know...
I would ask them for an honorarium...$100 bucks cash paid before you give them the numbers...but I would request that I do the opening myself.
If they get ridiculous just ignore them....they can always get a safe locksmith...


8 posted on 08/17/2024 9:58:42 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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Legal questions like this are impossible to answer without a lot more info and research.

But I’m wondering, did you select the combination, or change it to one only you know?

Because then maybe I could see your employer suing you, maybe even having you arrested, for theft or damaging company property.

And we’d need to see your employment contract if there was one.

And what’s in the safe?


9 posted on 08/17/2024 10:03:21 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Is the safe your property? Does the safe contain any of your property? If the answer to both of these is no, why would you deny them the combination?


10 posted on 08/17/2024 10:05:04 PM PDT by Right Brother (From Biden to Harris. From pee pads to kneepads.)
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To: Williams

Good questions, William!


11 posted on 08/17/2024 10:06:09 PM PDT by lee martell
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I’m a lawyer whose area of expertise is safes and safe cracking. In all my years in this profession, I’ve come to learn that all they really need to do is get a stethoscope and listen real closely as they turn the dials and they should be able to get it open.


12 posted on 08/17/2024 10:09:21 PM PDT by suasponte137
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> It’s the honorable thing to do. <

Right you are. If the employer owns the safe, give them the combination and be done with it.

One reason Western civilization is in the mess it’s in is that few people have a sense of honor anymore. It’s all about me, and not about doing the right thing.


13 posted on 08/17/2024 10:09:26 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Huzzah


14 posted on 08/17/2024 10:10:27 PM PDT by Kudsman (Stop the steal 24: Vote early)
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To: Jonty30

If they own the safe, of course

DOD, they have the combo to any safes as they are gov property.


15 posted on 08/17/2024 10:12:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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To: Getready

Not a good idea.


16 posted on 08/17/2024 10:16:00 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: Leaning Right

Yep


17 posted on 08/17/2024 10:16:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (Thank you God for saving president Trump from murder)
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18 posted on 08/17/2024 10:20:32 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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can they legally make you give them what you don’t remember??? 8^)?


19 posted on 08/17/2024 10:21:10 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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I say no. You were in a relationship of mutual benefit. You negotiated what each provided to the other. They decided to end the relationship.

It appears they wish to enter into another one, short-term, where they have a particular service in mind. You can negotiate what they have to provide in exchange.

As long as the 13th Amendment is still in effect, I don’t see how you can be compelled to perform for them.


20 posted on 08/17/2024 10:23:19 PM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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