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US-born professor who was adopted gains Irish citizenship through shocking DNA test
New York Post ^ | July 27, 2024 | Deirdre Bardolf

Posted on 08/12/2024 9:35:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

A 61-year-old professor born in Phoenix, Arizona, believes he is the first person to gain Irish citizenship solely based on the results of a DNA test, the Irish Times reported.

John Portmann, an author and professor of religious studies at the University of Virginia, took an Ancestry.com test in 2019 at the behest of his adopted sister. Portmann was cared for by nuns in Phoenix before being adopted and grew up not knowing anything about his background.

When he received his DNA results, he was shocked to find out he was full-blooded Irish...

he couldn't stop thinking about Ireland and about his biological mother and father so he hired a DNA detective to research his past...

He eventually learned that his biological father was from Dublin and his biological mother's family was from County Kilkenny in southeastern Ireland.

Portmann presented the evidence to authorities in Dublin who confirmed his father's identity and issued him an Irish passport...

He visited Ireland for the first time in October, met long-lost relatives and visited Belvedere College, where his paternal grandfather once taught...

According to Irish citizenship law, those born outside the country are automatically a citizen by birth if either one of the parents were born in Ireland and was a citizen.
US-born professor who was adopted gains Irish citizenship through shocking DNA test | Deirdre Bardolf | New York Post | July 27, 2024

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1 posted on 08/12/2024 9:35:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 08/12/2024 9:37:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I took the 23 and me test and it came back 99% Irish. My family has been here for at least 4 generations.

I guess they just liked to marry other people from Ireland.

I have no interest in obtaining an Irish passport of citizenship. That country is more messed up than we are but we are catching up.

3 posted on 08/12/2024 9:46:39 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was waiting for the punch line that his DNA showed 100% Congolese

I mean, its 2024 Ireland, after all.


4 posted on 08/12/2024 9:48:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SunkenCiv

“And the County Kilkenny girls with the way they kiss, they keep their boyfriends warm at night.” ~ Beach Boys ;)

I will never take any of those DNA tests. Ugh. My Sister took one, but anything goes with her. She just confirmed what we’ve all known about our ancestry all along. *SHRUG*


5 posted on 08/12/2024 10:02:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: usurper

A friend of mine’s mother family came from Ireland. They were all Irish citizens for few generations before moving to the US. They did a DNA Test and it came back 0% Irish. Apparently, they did the same and married within the non-Irish part of Ireland. The Italian side of the family had North Africa DNA. Likely from the Muslim conquest of Southern Europe hundreds of years before.


6 posted on 08/12/2024 10:03:52 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: SunkenCiv

Why was he “shocked” by the news? Does he dislike corned beef and cabbage? Does he hate potatoes? Does he hate Guinness beer?


7 posted on 08/12/2024 10:10:11 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: usurper

Same here.


8 posted on 08/12/2024 10:12:21 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Q: how many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?

A: none.

(Requires knowledge of history to get that one.)


9 posted on 08/12/2024 10:22:22 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wsnt to lnow why his parents dumped him at an orphanage.

The great Arizonan potato famine of 1963?


10 posted on 08/12/2024 10:24:42 AM PDT by shotgun
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Handsome fella. A good reason to be pro life having been raised by nuns.


11 posted on 08/12/2024 10:25:39 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SunkenCiv

The authorities confirmed the Irish father’s identity, making this man eligible for citizenship by descent. The dna led to the father’s identity.


12 posted on 08/12/2024 10:27:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: SunkenCiv
took an Ancestry.com test in 2019 at the behest of his adopted sister.

So now the FBI, DNC, Communist Chinese government and every Big Pharma company all have his DNA too.

13 posted on 08/12/2024 10:33:11 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: SunkenCiv

My brother took that test. He really didn’t find out anything that we already didn’t know. We’re mutts.


14 posted on 08/12/2024 10:45:32 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was hoping for “shocking” leprechan DNA.


15 posted on 08/12/2024 10:56:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv

My siblings, wife, and most of our relatives are very boring re our DNA.

However, we have several friends, who got some fairly big DNA surprises re unknown brothers and sisters until they got their Ancestor.com data.

Most of the surprises have worked out as positives.

One of our medical care professionals recently found out that his “Dad” was not his “Dad”.

My wife had an Uncle, who just disappeared right after the Korean war began. He apparently left his first family and went about 200 miles away and had a different surname/family. He got married and left a wife and 3 kids under that name. His oldest daughter did not want any connections with his first family.

We know close to a dozen couples with some type of hidden or kept quiet DNA links. As noted above, most incidents have
ended up as positive.


16 posted on 08/12/2024 11:21:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If our votes mattered, "Would our votes be counted as either helping Trump or helping Kamala!)
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To: Indy Pendance
Maybe "hybrid" sounds better than "mutt."

I also have ancestry from several different countries (all European).

I have a pretty good idea of my ethnic origins, at least in recent centuries, because I am third-generation American on one side, fifth-generation on half of the other side, and pre-Revolutionary American only the other half of one side (and that is most if not all English and Scots-Irish). I know where my immigrant ancestors were from (at least which country).

I have taken DNA tests from 7 companies. They disagree a fair amount on ethnic breakdowns (and some have sent revised versions significantly different from their earlier version). 23 and Me, Ancestry, MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA got it mostly right with minor exceptions. Living DNA got it somewhat right. CRI Genetics got it less than half right. GPS Origins was totally weird--all kinds of strange categories I could not possibly be descended from.

17 posted on 08/12/2024 11:43:39 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Instead of mutt or hybrid, how about American?

Most of the findings came from Scandinavia, Northwestern Russia, Iceland, basically Vikings.


18 posted on 08/12/2024 11:54:09 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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"One of our medical care professionals recently found out that his “Dad” was not his “Dad”.

My sister-in-law found out her brother was a half brother. OOPS, mom had an affair.

19 posted on 08/12/2024 11:57:21 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“... visited Belvedere College, where his paternal grandfather once taught...”

Belvedere College = alma mater of James Joyce.

To me, the most interesting factoid here is that this gentleman’s father was also an academic... a reminder of the truth (uncomfortable to some) that much of career aptitude is baked in at birth.


20 posted on 08/12/2024 11:59:55 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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