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NASA Might Delay Upcoming Crew 9 Mission to Return Stranded Starliner Astronauts to Earth
gizmodo.com ^ | August 5, 2024 | Passant Rabie

Posted on 08/06/2024 5:14:25 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Boeing Starliner spacecraft approaching the ISS. @ NASA

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It’s been nearly two months since Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft arrived at the International Space Station (ISS) for its first crewed test flight. Despite several technical mishaps that have delayed Starliner’s return to Earth, NASA has continuously insisted that the vehicle is capable of carrying the crew back. Recent reports, however, suggest the space agency is looking at alternatives to bring two astronauts home safely.

NASA officials are considering delaying the launch of SpaceX’s Crew 9 mission from August 18 to September 24, and putting two astronauts instead of four on board the Crew Dragon, to allow for the Starliner crew to hop on a different vehicle for their journey back to Earth, anonymous sources told Ars Technica. The move would signal the failure of Starliner’s first voyage to the ISS with astronauts on board and would confirm that, despite NASA’s attempts to downplay the spacecraft’s glitches, it was not fit to carry a crew back to Earth.

The Starliner CST-100 spacecraft launched atop a United Launch Alliance’s Atlas V rocket on June 5, carrying NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sunni Williams. During its approach to the ISS, five of the spacecraft’s thrusters failed, and the spacecraft developed five helium leaks, one of which was identified prior to liftoff. The mission was originally supposed to last eight days, but Starliner’s return to Earth was delayed indefinitely while teams carried out a series of tests to collect more data on the troublesome vehicle.

Despite Starliner’s lengthy stay docked to the ISS, NASA and Boeing have repeatedly claimed that the vehicle is capable of returning the crew at any moment and that the additional time in orbit is an opportunity to conduct tests that would otherwise be impossible to do with the spacecraft on the ground. The space agency and its commercial partner may soon have to eat their words, with reports suggesting that astronauts Wilmore and Williams will ride home on board SpaceX’s Dragon spacecraft instead.

NASA officials said during a press briefing on July 10 that Starliner would need to undock from the ISS before the scheduled launch of the Crew 9 mission in August. “The prime option today is to return Butch and Sunny on Starliner,” Steve Stich, manager of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, told reporters during the July briefing. “Right now, we don’t see any reason that that wouldn’t be the case.”

At the time, NASA was hoping to return its Starliner crew by the end of July. That deadline has passed, and now NASA is reportedly considering pushing back its Crew 9 launch.

NASA’s SpaceX Crew 9 mission includes three NASA astronauts and one Roscosmos cosmonaut, who are scheduled for a six-month stay on board the ISS. However, sources reportedly told Ars Technica that there was a greater than a 50-50 chance astronauts Wilmore and Williams would need to fly back on a SpaceX Dragon spacecraft due to ongoing discussions regarding the viability of the Starliner spacecraft. As of late last week, there was still no consensus among those responsible for making the decision, with the main concern being that they have yet to identify the root cause of the thruster failure, an anonymous source told CNBC.

Sending back an empty Starliner would be a major blow to NASA and its commercial partner Boeing, further reducing confidence in a vehicle marred by delays and failures. SpaceX has so far launched eight crews to the ISS and is getting ready to launch its ninth crew of astronauts, pending a final decision regarding Starliner’s ability to return a crew safely to Earth.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: atlasv; boeing; butchwilmore; crew9; cst100; nasa; spacex; starliner; sunniwilliams; teflon; ula
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TOTAL FAILURE.......................
1 posted on 08/06/2024 5:14:25 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: MtnClimber; SunkenCiv; mowowie; SuperLuminal; Cottonbay

Ping!.......................


2 posted on 08/06/2024 5:23:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

I am guessing that they will bring the 2 astronauts back on the Crew 9 and try to bring Starliner back in an autonomous reentry. It will be interesting to see if Starliner makes it back in one piece.


3 posted on 08/06/2024 5:28:34 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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TOTAL FAILURE.......................

Yes, but Boeing and NASA have met all of their DEI goals!

4 posted on 08/06/2024 5:37:30 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (President Trump saved by DIVINE INTERVENTION. GOD CONTINUES TO BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: MtnClimber

They may just crash into the sea what’s left of it after it burns up.............


5 posted on 08/06/2024 5:38:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
“The prime option today is to return Butch and Sunny on Starliner,” Steve Stich, manager of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, told reporters during the July briefing. “Right now, we don’t see any reason that that wouldn’t be the case.”

If you're the 'crew manager' and you actually say this with a straight face... YOU HAVE A CAREER IN JOURNALISM!

Tired of the lies - no one with their fingers in the public till EVER tell the truth about anything.
6 posted on 08/06/2024 5:48:41 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Red Badger
Correction:

Starliner MAX

/s

7 posted on 08/06/2024 5:51:10 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: larrytown

If I were Butch & Sonny, I would refuse to ever get back in that leaky bucket.....................


8 posted on 08/06/2024 5:51:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: logi_cal869

At least the door didn’t fall off.....................


9 posted on 08/06/2024 5:52:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

1.5 Billion over budget, 4 years behind schedule and it broke right out of the box.


10 posted on 08/06/2024 5:53:15 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Isn’t Diversity wunnerful?...................


11 posted on 08/06/2024 5:56:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

NASA and Boeing—idiots and liars.


12 posted on 08/06/2024 5:57:00 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Red Badger

I realize NASA wants competition and wants more than one viable competitor for launch services, but at this point its just gotten ridiculous. SpaceX has lapped Boeing so many times over that Boeing is not even remotely competitive. This one is over. Give Boeing a vote of no confidence, terminate any existing contracts unless and until they can adequately fulfill this one and look for somebody else. If that means contracting with the Japanese or the Europeans to have some viable option other than SpaceX, so be it.


13 posted on 08/06/2024 6:03:50 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Those astronauts must really be pissed. I know I would be. I wonder what NASA’s response would be if both astronauts, on a public live video broadcast, resigned. I know it’s not gonna happen, but it’s just a thought.

NASA needs to quit dragging their feet and BRING THEM HOME. GET IT DONE, NASA… It’s only gonna look even worse the longer they hem and haw.

14 posted on 08/06/2024 6:43:58 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Red Badger

And the pilot didn’t somehow get lost and dock onto an alien space station. Their luggage arrived with them. They didn’t get stuck in customs and have a cavity search. But they don’t have grub hub delivery.


15 posted on 08/06/2024 6:46:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Red Badger

But one wonders if it’s really a thruster problem which is prompting them to avoid reentry with the astronauts...

(i.e., “Are we sure that we doublechecked the sub’s work?”)

/s


16 posted on 08/06/2024 6:46:17 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Red Badger

And in all seriousness, what did they do with all the MAX managers during the grounding?

They certainly didn’t oversee a new plane.

Perhaps they were assigned to Starliner...

Fits.

/s


17 posted on 08/06/2024 6:48:24 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Maybe those cheap Chinese thrusters weren’t such a good deal after all................


18 posted on 08/06/2024 6:51:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

They’ll blame the subs.


19 posted on 08/06/2024 6:53:34 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: All

Best to be clear here, despite the embarrassment and preference.

SpaceX is not the safest option for returning the crew. Their flight hours total just isn’t there. Clearly, there are Starliner issues as well.

If there is an urgent need to return the crew, the best option is Soyuz. Might as well accept it, regardless of the politics. But as of now I suspect there is no urgency, as long as unmanned resupply still works.


20 posted on 08/06/2024 6:54:25 AM PDT by Owen
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