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Teacher who had sex with two schoolboys jailed
https://www.yahoo.com/news/teacher-had-sex-two-schoolboys-123027852.html ^

Posted on 07/04/2024 8:41:10 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

The trial heard that Joynes was 28 when she had come out of a nine-year relationship and was "flattered" by the attention of teenage schoolboys.

She gave birth to a baby in early 2024, with the child being taken away from her within 24 hours.

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To: Chickensoup

No point in having anyone raise the children they whelped, only The State can do a good job of parenting.


61 posted on 07/04/2024 2:52:38 PM PDT by null and void (The last war America actually won was WWII, because the CIA wasn't organized until after that war!)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

I doubt she tied him up and forced him to have sex.....exactly how old was he when he was taught where babies come from and how they got there......


62 posted on 07/04/2024 2:53:05 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Luke21

I had one of those in 1972, my English teacher. A miniskirted Gloria Steinem style feminist with the big glasses. She even came to my basketball games and cheered for exactly one player-me. The guys gave me so much crap, I did everything possible to discourage her and I eventually made her hate my guts. In retrospect, I should have talked to my father, but in those days, that was an admission you weren’t ready to handle your own business.

1) The guys were jealous.
2) You really didn’t want to talk with your dad.


63 posted on 07/04/2024 2:53:49 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Republican Wildcat

So now being against sexual perversion and child/adult sex is “woke”?


Advocating abolishment of all barriers and restrictions on sexual interaction and gratification is “woke.”


64 posted on 07/04/2024 2:54:15 PM PDT by Cold_Red_Steel
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“2) You really didn’t want to talk with your dad.”

You are probably right. My dad was an alley cat. D


65 posted on 07/04/2024 3:14:40 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: null and void

Did I say that?


66 posted on 07/04/2024 3:59:02 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: cherry

Young teen girls who have been groomed and seduced won’t have to have been tied up either, most of them will also “consent” but I suspect your attitude would be different then, especially if she became pregnant.


67 posted on 07/04/2024 4:33:42 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: DIRTYSECRET

She gave Boy A all but one of the digits of her mobile phone number as a maths problem-solving exercise in which he had to work out the final digit.

They then connected on Snapchat and he sent her flirtatious texts, with the pair agreeing to meet in secret.


she taught math?


68 posted on 07/04/2024 4:39:56 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The woman is 28. Been with someone 9 years-since age 19. If she’s not getting along with her boyfriend and he’s on his way out you can be sure they’re not doing it. When it becomes final she’s gonna need a whole lotta sex. Quantity over quality. At that point it’s all good-some of it’s better. She’ll get over it, do her time and start her life over. I’m sure the father of her child will have no choice but to keep in touch. There are other jobs besides teaching. Don’t brand her with a scarlet letter.


69 posted on 07/04/2024 5:06:20 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Chickensoup

Try ‘em in the same courts as adults, they stay in the same jails with adults while awaiting trial (what 12 year old can make bail?), ride the same sheriff’s bus from jail to the court room, and where do they go after conviction?

No juvenile courts? What did you think would happen?


70 posted on 07/04/2024 6:45:17 PM PDT by null and void (The last war America actually won was WWII, because the CIA wasn't organized until after that war!)
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To: Chickensoup
Why did the state remove the baby?

Because the mom is going to jail and it's a UK court decision, not the U.S.

71 posted on 07/04/2024 7:07:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: DIRTYSECRET; desertsolitaire; szweig; DesertRhino; citizen; icclearly; poinq; SauronOfMordor; ...
The whoa-har-har tone of the pro-teacher-sex posts on this thread have imagined that it was a meaningless roll in the hay—in other words, male fantasy sex. But no; women want female fantasy sex: emotional involvement, declarations of love, scenarios of running away together or getting married—all of which these female predators extract from male children with no ability whatsoever to care for a woman or a baby. It is even more emotinally abusive than physically abusive. It is all about her, and nothing about the child getting an education and finding a trade or profession so that he could support a family some day.

This testimony from the boy who fathered the child with the teacher appeared in the DailyMail today:

'I struggled to come to terms with my abuse': Boy B's hard-hitting victim impact statement

'I was in love with Rebecca and struggled to come to terms with my abuse - I was completely in denial. I subsequently held back and did not fully open up to people. Rebecca was in my head that much, I would argue until I was blue in the face protecting her and would not hear a bad word against her. I felt as so I had betrayed someone I love and had done wrong by giving evidence. I felt a large sense of guilt for a long time. I questioned if I was right to give statements about the woman who was carrying my child, since then I have replayed a lot of things in my head, and spoken to a lot of people, and it has made me realise the full extent of the abuse carried out on me and the tactics that were used to do so.

'I was coerced and controlled, manipulated, sexually abused and mentally abused. it is very upsetting that this has happened to me, and I have had little to no support from any organisations. I am only just finding help through self-referrals and help from a family support worker.

'The months after the abuse happened to me was a very dark time, I felt backed into a corner. I had just lived a double life for 18 months behind my family's back. This had a massive mental toll on me and my family. It tore my family apart, they struggled to come to terms with the fact they sent me to school, where they believed it to be a safe environment, and this happened as a result. I attended school regularly and left with straight As. My parents broke down every day and night trying to get me to speak, I held many things back. I thought I would be better off dealing with things alone, as it is a rare case and not very relatable to others.

'The gender inequality I have faced is absurd. I feel that because of my gender this is seen as a lesser crime. I have been told time after time, that now I am 18, I will have to wait years for support, as I am now an adult. The grooming started at 15 years of age, and I have struggled to find any services which support males of my age with sexual abuse counselling and support. There are a lot for young females and children though. I feel like sometimes these crimes go unnoticed due to men bottling things up, I hope there is an increase in these services in the future.

'I struggle to understand how Rebecca still takes no responsibility for the crimes she committed. I have never been in trouble in my life, and attending court is very intimidating. I seriously struggle with the thought of Rebecca getting away with all these crimes and how this may impact my life in the future. The future I have set for myself has already been greatly impacted.'


72 posted on 07/04/2024 7:13:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Amazing what weeks and months of government struggle sessions can brainwash a kid into saying. This is straight out of North Korea where pilots were signing bizarre statements.

“I have spoken to a lot of people, and it has made me realise the full extent of the abuse carried out on me and the tactics that were used to do so.

‘The gender inequality I have faced is absurd. I feel that because of my gender this is seen as a lesser crime. I have been told time after time, that now I am 18, I will have to wait years for support,

I feel like sometimes these crimes go unnoticed due to men bottling things up,”


73 posted on 07/04/2024 8:17:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Albion Wilde

“You are wrong about that, according to research. Even a boy child is too young to wisely process the power imbalance between himself and an adult woman. “

Pinch your nose when you say that and it’s sound about right. LOL


74 posted on 07/04/2024 8:19:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you for clarity.


75 posted on 07/04/2024 8:44:54 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: DesertRhino; DIRTYSECRET; desertsolitaire
You did single out the most salient part of his statement:
because of my gender this is seen as a lesser crime. I have been told time after time, that now I am 18, I will have to wait years for support,
The years of wait he is referring to is because his nation has socialist medicine. So he does not fit the stereotypical (female) trauma victim on the UK National Health System's check boxes:
1) teenage mother as a result of statutory rape,
2) legal minor when groomed and raped by a teacher.

While the distress of an 18-year-old girl who was impregnated at 15 by an older male teacher will be readily recognized by the NHS and she would be regarded as deserving of ongoing therapy, the same thing that happened to him will be minimized because he is a male. He will be pushed to the back of the line.

This straight-A student will be expected to just get over the death of all his and his parents' aspirations for a solid launch to independent adulthood. He will be compelled either to get an unskilled job to pay child support, or to impose on his parents when he should be finding his wings. He will have guilt and shame for breaking their hearts.

But hey, he got some hot pagan cougar nooky, so it's all good with you, right?

76 posted on 07/04/2024 10:02:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: DesertRhino
Amazing what weeks and months of government struggle sessions can brainwash a kid into saying. This is straight out of North Korea where pilots were signing bizarre statements. Yep! It sure is.

Another "girlie boy" is made.

77 posted on 07/05/2024 5:22:20 AM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Albion Wilde

Im re-thinking my “joke” posting and have since read that the young males in these situations universally relate that their lives were forever altered for the worse from these encounters. I retract my joke post and will consider more carefully future responses. From all that I can tell, reading, these encounters follow the trope that sexual assaults’ by one person in greater power positions over another, are not arising from love and passion but a search for power over another, vulnerable person. The dynamic shouldn’t be seen as a relationship of any normal kind but abuse by a predator. Females in the predator role aren’t traditionally seen that way by the general public but perhaps that is changing?


78 posted on 07/05/2024 5:29:33 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: Albion Wilde

*’I was in love with Rebecca and struggled to come to terms with my abuse - I was completely in denial.*

Get your first piece of ass and you’re in love?


79 posted on 07/05/2024 6:01:49 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DesertRhino

IOW, you would be a very proud father, if this was your son.
You probably would have her over for Sunday dinners and would encourage them to go play “house” in his room.


80 posted on 07/05/2024 6:31:59 AM PDT by ANKE69 (Beware of zeeper doxxing !!!!!!)
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