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Oops! Natrona County [WY] Maintained Rural Road For Years, But Never Owned It
Cowboy State Daily ^ | June 26, 2024 | Dale Killingbeck

Posted on 06/27/2024 12:32:33 PM PDT by Red Badger

After years of maintaining County Road 505, Natrona County officials sued local landowners when they threatened to block off the road. Turns out, the county doesn't even own the road -- the landowners do. Both sides were in front of a judge Wednesday.

Gravel trucks were using County Road 505 on June 18, 2024, to haul gravel to the BLM project on Muddy Mountain. (Dale Killingbeck, Cowboy State Daily)

CASPER — Determining who owns County Road 505 and a frustrated landowner’s threat to block it off landed in a Natrona County courtroom Wednesday.

Natrona County is asking for an injunction to stop the landowner from making good on a threat to block the road to keep people from coming onto and damaging private property.

A two-hour hearing Wednesday morning on the Natrona County Commission petition to legally deal with the threatened closure of County Road 505 brought questions and skepticism from a Natrona County District Court judge.

Woodbury Land and Livestock LLC and owners Walt and Stephanie Woodbury say they’ve been trying to deal with the county to address issues they have with the road and access to their property. But say it wasn’t until they threatened to gate the road to everyone except emergency vehicles last week that their complaints gained any traction.

County Road 505 stretches 13.5 miles from the top of Casper Mountain to State Highway 487, and while it’s called a county road, the Woodburys own it.

Judge Joshua Eames told Natrona County Attorney Health Duncan-Hunter and deputy attorney Leda Pojman that there’s a “weirdness” to their filing, the stalemate between the parties and how the law may apply.

Duncan-Hunter agreed that the filing is unusual, but the county believes it had no choice after receiving a June 14 letter threatening to block off County Road 505 effective June 19.

Woodbury’s attorney John Masterson argued for dismissal of the county’s motion for a preliminary injunction because the county has no proof it owns the road.

“No one here has been harmed,” he said. “The county has no standing to bring a lawsuit.”

‘Constitutional Issues’ In a court filing late Tuesday responding to the county, Masterson argued that since portions of the road are on his client’s property, the county is seeking an injunction to prevent the Woodburys from using their own land.

“The Woodburys are not aware of any legal authority for the proposition that injunctive relief to take private property can take the place of a required statutory process or eminent domain,” Masterson wrote. “Constitutional issues are also implicated.”

Duncan-Hunter told the judge that the county is “grateful” that the Woodburys have not followed through with the closure threat, but argued the court still needs to act to ensure public safety as well as allow construction projects on top of Casper Mountain and on the road leading to Muddy Mountain to continue on schedule.

Natrona County Road and Bridge Director Mike Haigler testified how the road has long been maintained by the county and its importance as an evacuation route in emergencies.

He also testified about current construction projects that, if impeded, would bring costs to the county for delays, potentially $30,000 a day under one scenario.

Masterson told the court his clients want to work with the county to find a solution. They have proposed putting two gates across the road south of Casper Mountain and the road to Muddy Mountain campgrounds. Access would still be available to both areas via the north side of the mountain.

Codes for the locked gates would be provided to first responders and emergency personnel, as well as to private landowners. In the event of a fire or catastrophe, emergency dispatchers could provide the codes to any caller.

Under questioning by Pojman, Haigler testified that if County Road 505 was blocked, contractors would not be able to use semitrailers to haul material to the construction projects because of the hairpin curves on the north side of the mountain.

A semi hauls gravel up County Road 505 or Circle Drive for the Muddy Mountain. (Dale Killingbeck, Cowboy State Daily)

Long Maintained By County

Haigler said the road has been considered a county road as far as he can remember and has been maintained by the county for many years. He testified that the county installed two gates along the road with permission from landowners several years ago that are used to block the road in the winter.

“It’s at the request of the sheriff’s office so they are doing a lot of search and rescues,” he said.

Duncan-Hunter told the judge the county has been digging through records and is “still trying to locate how” County Road 505, also known as Circle Drive came into the system. She also told the court the county earlier this month initiated a process of establishing the road through “prescription” or “adverse possession.”

Under that legal means, a survey and plat would be filed, the county would then publish the notice of the county’s intent to establish the road and set a deadline for any “objections” from those who have an interest in the lands on which the road accesses. A hearing date would then be set to establish the road.

Duncan-Hunter told the judge that she expects the survey to be completed within the next two weeks.

Judge Eames told attorneys he struggled to see how long any preliminary injunction would be in effect.

Masterson told the court his clients continue to see trespassers abuse their properties along the roadway. The Woodburys allege that they are dealing with demolished fences, littering, target shooting, damage to livestock, and loss of grazing for their cattle.

The couple bought the property along the road in September 2023.

No Title Searches

Under questioning from Masterson, Haigler said he was not aware of any county efforts to do title searches of properties prior to this year’s road construction projects on County Road 505 or the Muddy Mountain Road.

“I understand why the county doesn’t want to admit they don’t have rights (to the road),” Masterson said. “They have to follow the established process to get this. No one searched titles, no one knocked on doors.”

Masterson’s Tuesday filing asked the court to deny the county’s motions for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction and award his clients their attorney fees and costs.

He told the judge that his clients just want to solve the issue.

“I think it can be solved,” he said, adding that, “This is not the way to do it.”

Dale Killingbeck can be reached at dale@cowboystatedaily.com.


TOPICS: History; Local News; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: constitution; eminentdomain; wyoming
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1 posted on 06/27/2024 12:32:33 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

You mean there are other Dem bureaucrats in Wyoming other than Lizzy?


2 posted on 06/27/2024 12:34:38 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Red Badger

Masterson’s Tuesday filing asked the court to deny the county’s motions for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction and award his clients their attorney fees and costs.

He told the judge that his clients just want to solve the issue.

“I think it can be solved,” he said, adding that, “This is not the way to do it.”


yes, why does govt always go to legal, instead of some common sense negotiation.

Have a local situation. City lost the ruling and decided to appeal, rather than sit and talk about the issue.


3 posted on 06/27/2024 12:42:15 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Red Badger

Just wait until the water rights issues emerge.


4 posted on 06/27/2024 12:42:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

Be careful what you pray for...


5 posted on 06/27/2024 12:56:43 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: Red Badger

“The couple bought the property along the road in September 2023.”

Chit can happen when the non-locals show up with Buck$.

I’d go with annual rent from the BLM. Equal to my annual Income Taxes.


6 posted on 06/27/2024 12:57:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

Happens all the time in west Texas.

DOT cut a road though my ranch one time going nowhere and without anything resembling a right of way. Notified them immediately, but they didn’t stop. Finally had to sue. At the injunction hearing they said “oops my bad”.

I use it now to land my plane.


7 posted on 06/27/2024 12:59:25 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thanks for the FREE airstrip, guys!..............


8 posted on 06/27/2024 1:00:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: MeanWestTexan

On my rural property in CT the state started putting up “State Forest” signs.

I told them to either produce the surveys proving it was their land or I go to court.

In about a week one of their senior guys apologized and ordered the signs taken down.


9 posted on 06/27/2024 1:03:10 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“yes, why does govt always go to legal, instead of some common sense negotiation.”

Probably because there is no one in government empowered to make a deal. They always go to the court because the judge can make a deal and then there’s no one to blame if the voters don’t like the deal. We’ve been a litigious society since before the Revolutionary War.

I read most of the article and didn’t see immanent domain or seizure for public use. Those are the go-to’s in cases like this. Also, at least where I live, if you maintain property for a certain period then you own it. If I get caught mowing the county’s property adjacent to mine, I’d get a cease-and-desist letter pronto.


10 posted on 06/27/2024 1:04:47 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: MeanWestTexan

Do you live next to the infamous Van Horn speed trap? I was in a car with 5 other college students when we got pulled over in 1987 in VanHorn. I was the only one in the car smart enough to slip on my seatbelt before the officer got to the car and therefor was the only one not to get a ticket. The officer “guided” our car to the nearest mailbox for my 5 friends to deposit their fine payments or they could spend the night in jail.


11 posted on 06/27/2024 1:06:25 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“Near” by west Texas standards, but I think that is 250 miles away.

Van Horn is basically El Paso.

I’m Permian Basic area.


12 posted on 06/27/2024 2:05:54 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Red Badger

Might depend on the state. Is nome states:

If a roadway is used, even in the middle of a property, and there is no sign “Right to pass revokable at any time”, and if the road is maintained with eqipmenmt, that may make it a passageway that cannot be blocked.


13 posted on 06/27/2024 2:06:30 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: Red Badger

Dang. Is this possible? “She also told the court the county earlier this month initiated a process of establishing the road through “prescription” or “adverse possession.” Governments can be abusive but they think they can claim “squatters rights”? Of course the negated that by saying the installed gates with the owner’s permission.

If they own it why did they need permission?


14 posted on 06/27/2024 2:09:57 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Red Badger

It certainly sounds like there is an easement. Once people have been using a road for 25 years or so, an easement exists.


15 posted on 06/27/2024 2:14:22 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (לעזאזל עם חמאס)
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To: Red Badger

That’s a lot of money the owners owe the country for maintaining their road for years.


16 posted on 06/27/2024 2:22:30 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Paladin2

” “The couple bought the property along the road in September 2023.”
Chit can happen when the non-locals show up with Buck$.
I’d go with annual rent from the BLM. Equal to my annual Income Taxes.”

I bet they knew they would own this road because it would show up on the survey and title search. Now they are very politely going to squeeze the county for some of their purchase cost.

I did something similar. Bought a commercial property that the owner assumed gave three other adjacent owners esements across the property he was selling. He had it bassackwards. His property had easements across theirs but they did not have easements across his. When I got the property and already knowing this, Hardee’s had to pay up or lose access to their drive through.


17 posted on 06/27/2024 2:28:09 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Only if they did so openly and without permission, Doesn’t seem to be the case here since the county asked permission to install gates.


18 posted on 06/27/2024 2:29:50 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ifinnegan

Nope. You can build on my property without permission and I owe you nothing.


19 posted on 06/27/2024 2:32:11 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Not if you don’t tell them not to and use what they’ve done.


20 posted on 06/27/2024 3:05:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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