Posted on 02/21/2024 8:18:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Which is more important for a movie: a compelling story or ideology?
If you found yourself among those with an internal monologue, you likely answered “compelling story.” If so, I’m sorry to inform you that this means you are a mouth-breathing troglodyte — at least according to the folks over at Disney.
Responding to recent criticisms of Disney and its CEO Bob Iger, an executive at the House of Mouse suggested to Puck writer Matthew Belloni that moviegoers’ latent bigotry is to blame for the studio’s many flops in recent years.
“Everyone says, ‘It’s the movies, stupid,’” the unnamed executive said, “which is an easy thing for people to say.”
“More appealing movies are a great way to jump the political issues. But more and more, our audience (or the segment of the audience that has been politicized) equate the perceived messaging in a film as a quality issue,” the executive continued. “They won’t say they find female empowerment distasteful … but they will say they don’t like those movies because they are ‘bad.’”
He concludes, “‘[M]ake better movies’ becomes code for ‘make movies that conform to regressive gender stereotypes or put men front and center in the narrative.’ Which is what you’re seeing now, and what Bob [Iger]’s pivot is about right now.”
The simple fact of the matter is that, overwhelmingly, people don’t actually care if their entertainment is ideological, but they do care if it sucks — which many of Disney’s recent releases do. Disney’s lackluster success in recent years has little, if anything, to do with their products being ideological. It has everything to do with the elevation of ideology over storytelling.
Suffice it to say that Disney’s ideological messaging over the last several years is a cultural cancer that deserves to be booed, jeered, and boycotted, but the reality is that people don’t mind patronizing a business with which they disagree so long as they receive a quality product, which Disney movies no longer appear to be.
Prioritizing “the message” while neglecting the mechanism that effectively conveys it is why people have checked out. Countless movies successfully launder ideology into the masses while not compromising on the story.
Recent releases like “Barbie” and “Oppenheimer,” and even classic films like “Casablanca” (Rick fought for the Republicans during the Spanish Civil War, after all), have clear left-wing sympathies, but that isn’t why they were so successful.
They were largely successful because their stories were compelling and insightful and took precedence over “the message.”
Disney could very easily correct course and, once again, delight people instead of patronizing them. It simply requires understanding what stories are for and who they are meant to serve. But this would require self-awareness and respect for those who helped them become the monolith they are; the studio has neither and has chosen to bronze the gold bar that was its cultural carte blanche.
IF they can tell good stories with only a mild sprinkling of leftism...which Hollywood has been doing for decades...they would do okay.
They ignore the fact that when they tell good stories with traditional values, they inevitably have a smash hit. Peter Jackson did NOT want to follow Tolkien closely in his Lord of the Rings trilogy, but felt it was the best way to go commercially - and it was.
Spengler and Donner had to fight to make Superman “all American” in 1978! “Truth, justice and the American way” were almost cut from the script as too hokey.
The left is now too ingrained in Disney. I fear the Mouse is past the point of no return. You would have to fire over 80% of the current employees to purge the woke.
They don't.
Name for me a good new franchise they've developed. You can't. They're just living off of the past.....of past people's talent and creativity. Their idea of being "creative" is: "I know!" Let's take a story that's been told before and replace a normal White male character with a disabled, transgender, vegetarian, communist of color! That will be so fresh!"
Then they get mad when nobody wants to watch that crap and it flops.
Many Disney/Sony movies will fail for a reason Iger just reinforced. They are not “limiting themselves to the source material”. So instead of making a movie with tens of millions of expectant customers, the comic book readers and their families, they go for a nebulous audience whose interests doesn’t involve comic book characters. Disney’s leadership now is looking like the board of directors of Wayne Enterprises in Gotham, supporting evil while squandering the base company assets. Next will be the collapse of the theme parks.
Let's make an all-female WWII movie!
"Regressive gender stereotypes" comes from civilization's tendency to put men in harm's way, going back to Beowulf and the Greek, Roman, and Norse mythologies.
-PJ
A prominent YooToober made this point last night: these movies aren't being made for any audience except the clique behind the writing and directing; that the old Steely Dan line "Show biz kids making movies of themselves, you know they don't give a **** about anybody else" has become written in stone in Hollywood. When they say "We're reimagining this for a modern audience" they mean only themselves. Narcissism in Hollywood, who'd have ever suspected?
So if I decline from association with, or any indulgence of fags, trannys, and pedos then I’m a bigot? Then long live bigotry. All the letter people need to go hide and keep to themselves, or get therapy. Just stop insisting you are normal.
I would say that the great actresses of yesterday were great story tellers; acting after all is telling a story and making the audience believe.
I believed Ingrid Berman’s character in Casal Blanca was torn between Humphrey Bogart and Paul Heinreid, I believed that Jeanette MacDonald loved Nelson Eddy, I believed that Vivein Leigh was a superficial and beautiful young flirt with hidden depths in Gone with the Wind.
I could go on and on, Barbara Stanwick, Ginger Rogers, Katherine Hepburn . . . you are being quite unfair to women.
Liberals tell lousy stories because they live a negative, bitter existence.
Disney execs, and shareholders, should ask “What would Walt do?”
Here’s a hint. If Walt were around today, he would be best buds with DeSantis.
marxist politics, transexual grooming, and pedophilia all make for terrible stories.
Condemning the audience is not a good business model. But that is the world in which we now live. Businesses no longer exist to serve their clientele, but to promote propaganda and woke ideologies.
F Disney.
I liked the first Wonder Woman movie. I thought it was the best of the DC comics movies. It had a good story. I hated the second Wonder Woman movie. I thought the story was a piece of crap.
Does that make me half a misogynist?
What a simply desperate, asinine statement for this ("courageously" unnamed) executive to make. Both Tangled and Frozen were "female empowerment" movies, both were hugely successful, and I enjoyed each tremendously. But then again, they weren't remakes of some beloved classic re-done solely for the sake of casting the "correct" type of characters this time, nor new stories designed to lecture us unwashed masses on how intolerant we are.
If this is the attitude of Disney leadership (and I know it is), they deserve to be circling the drain.
You beat me to it! They are intertwined and inseparable!
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Disney Executives Admit: Of Course We’re Grooming Your Children: Multiple Disney employees admitted their own personal missions to deluge 5- to 9-year-olds with as much of their own sexual ideology as possible.
Disney isn’t just grooming children with radical sexual propaganda — now they’re bragging about it.
On the heels of Florida’s new Parental Rights in Education law, which bars educators from instructing kindergarten through third-grade students about sexual ideology, multiple executives and employees from the Walt Disney Company admitted their own personal missions to deluge 5- to 9-year-olds with as much of their own sexual ideology as possible.
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“Our leadership over there has been so welcoming to my, like, not-at-all-secret gay agenda,” said Latoya Raveneau, an executive producer for Disney Television Animation. “I was just, wherever I could, just basically adding queerness … No one would stop me and no one was trying to stop me.”
This was rumored for a long time but finally spilled out into the open in 2019.
Now any writing talent trots their happy little butt to other places that actually pay.
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