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1 posted on 02/17/2024 6:44:38 PM PST by Red Badger
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GM stopped production of the Pontiac Fiero when only 16,000 were produced. (When the Fiero finally got everything right...)


2 posted on 02/17/2024 6:54:46 PM PST by Does so ( πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦...Motels for Migrants give legitimate addresses for mail-in ballots.)
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My first car, bought brand new and factory ordered... (1977 Chevy Camaro)....


3 posted on 02/17/2024 6:55:17 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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I lived in Norwood, Ohio in the early 80s about two blocks from the GM assembly plant that was producing the Camaro. The big problem for GM in Norwood was getting enough UAW members to show up for work in order to run the assembly line.


5 posted on 02/17/2024 6:56:55 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Who failed the Chevy Camaro? ... Was it us, as Americans, who knew the car was at Chevy dealers but chose the Mustang or Challenger instead?

...

Did we, as Americans, fail the Chevy Camaro?


I wasn't aware that I, as an American, had some sort of obligation to a friggin' model of car that I've never been interested in.

What the heck kind of reasoning is this? The market didn't fail the Camaro, the Camaro failed in the market.
6 posted on 02/17/2024 6:57:41 PM PST by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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I couldn’t afford one.

I just wanted a 2008 with the four taillights and a V-8


8 posted on 02/17/2024 7:00:20 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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When the Hawaii 5-0 television reboot which started in 2010 last aired in 2020, Chevrolet no longer had their hour-long advertisement for the Camaros which were shown throughout each episode being driven by the main characters.





9 posted on 02/17/2024 7:00:25 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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The two biggest customers for the Camaro:

1. Nurses, and

2. Women named Donna.


10 posted on 02/17/2024 7:00:55 PM PST by Fido969
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The Trans Am concept cars, built even after Pontiac disappeared, looked promising and would likely have helped the model.



15 posted on 02/17/2024 7:06:36 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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Too expensive to buy. I last bought a car in 2006. A new one anyway. A Honda CRV, 5K down, and financed about 23K. Now, a new car is in the 60K+ range. Higher for a “better” car. At the time I bought my last new car, I purchased a home for 180K. I couldn’t keep up with the rising costs of things. Though I was making $6K a month, one illness and I had to sell it and bought a Manufactured in a park for $18k cash and settled in to a life of no work, and treatments.

The economic system is failing, and we are all being chased into the streets or a section 8 apt. Only the rich will have nice things. My daughter was paying $1250 a month for rent two years ago. She is now paying $3000 a month. But she has one more bathroom and the kitchen is nicer. My other daughter lives in the ghetto apartments in Tacoma WA, 3rd floor because her first floor apt was shot up while she and her hubby slept. Rent? $2700 a month...two bdrm one bath laundry in the common area.

Seems sustainable to me, she is a case worker for DSHS with a degree in accounting n social work, he drives for Amazon.


17 posted on 02/17/2024 7:11:53 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (β€œAnd how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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Chevy and Ford have similar issues in this market segment. Devotees. Ford guys. Chevy guys.
Chevy’s guys are divided between Corvette guys and Camaro guys.
Ford has no such dilemma. Ford guys have the Mustang.
Yes, there is a very limited market for the GT Supercar; its price is astronomical and out of reach but, for the very few.
The Chevy Corvette on the other hand is attainable for those who are on a Camaro budget but, really want a Corvette.
They can stretch their budget or, delay a purchase while saving more money and get the Vette instead of settling for the Camaro. A great many buyers opt for the latter.
So, my opinion is the Chevy Camaro is a victim of the Chevy Corvette. The Mustang has no such brand competition.


18 posted on 02/17/2024 7:13:16 PM PST by ocrp1982
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I like the looks of the current models, but my view on buying cars has always been they are a tool for transportation first, a fashion statement a distant second. A coupe that can comfortably make a road trip with just two people doesn’t meet my needs. Give it 3-1/2 more years for the kids to finish college and that might change.


19 posted on 02/17/2024 7:15:32 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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It’s not a bad looking car. I can’t speak to the available options. There was a time in the early 90s when the Mustang came in a 4 cylinder. It looked great, but was underwhelming performance wise. The last iteration of the Camaro just appears too cramped inside to actually enjoy as a daily driver.


20 posted on 02/17/2024 7:16:25 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Question that probably has an obvious answer to people here.
Cars like the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky and ones like them would have a waiting list for a limited amount with guys like Jay Leno first in line. People bidding over list price to get them. Then sold out.

At the same time they would say GM crisis. Fewer cars sold.

Question: Why didn’t they make more of the sold out ones?


23 posted on 02/17/2024 7:24:50 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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I had a used ‘68 with a 328 V8. It had some pick up and go. :-)


25 posted on 02/17/2024 7:30:02 PM PST by plain talk
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I know they’re basically the same, but I’m a Firebird kind of girl, so...

Sorry, Chevy.


29 posted on 02/17/2024 7:39:13 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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I love seeing the Mustangs and Camaros and Challengers driving around, but I don’t want one.


31 posted on 02/17/2024 7:58:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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When the mullet went out of style, the Camaro went out of style.

33 posted on 02/17/2024 8:10:38 PM PST by Round Earther
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This article is full of wrong information. Where to start?

First of the modern Camaro and Mustang are not pony cars. They are muscle cars.

Even the base 4 cyl. engine would put an old school big block to shame.


34 posted on 02/17/2024 8:12:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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Was it GM with a lack of advertising and a poor final design?

Yes. Poor design. The Camaro was like riding in a tank. High beltlines made for poor outward visibility.

36 posted on 02/17/2024 8:14:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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Did “we” fail??

No, it is a government motors product, that is a major strike against it.

“the Magnetic Ride Control suspension package. “

Being a UAW made product, I have to laugh at how long a gee-whiz electric suspenesion is going to last.

A resurrection of the 67-68 Camaro without electric BS might have gotten attention. The thing they came up with looked like a WWII German Pillbox on wheels.


41 posted on 02/17/2024 8:39:50 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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