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‘I wasn’t allowed to get the healthcare I needed’: the women suing Tennessee for being denied abortions (Barf Alert)
The Guardian ^ | February 1, 2024 | Carter Sherman

Posted on 02/03/2024 6:27:52 AM PST by Morgana

When K Monica Kelly saw that women in Texas had filed a lawsuit challenging the contours of their state’s abortion ban, she posted on Instagram to cheer them on.

“I shared how terrible I thought it was, that they weren’t able to get the proper healthcare they needed in their state,” Kelly said. “It never crossed my mind that that was actually going to happen to me soon.”

Kelly and her husband spent a year trying to have a second baby. So when they discovered in February 2023 that Kelly was pregnant, the couple was ecstatic. They taught their son, who was then two years old, to describe their family as: “Mama, dada, me, baby, all four!” After an ultrasound looked promising, they drove more than 10 hours from their home in northern Tennessee to announce the news to their family in Florida.

Only days later, after they’d returned home, in late March, the pair drove back to Florida. This time, though, the drive was “surreal and devastating”, Kelly said. A series of catastrophic fetal diagnoses had led Kelly to decide to get an abortion – a procedure she could not legally get in Tennessee.

“It’s awful and agonizing to just even drive that far to go do something that you just really don’t want to do,” Kelly said. “Even up until the last second, I wished that I could change my mind. But I just knew that that was the best decision.”

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: abortion; patausyndrome; prolife; tennessee; trisomy13
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Another one! Trisomy 13 is also known as Patau Syndrome

More on Trisomy 13...

What is the life expectancy for someone with trisomy 13?

Since internal organ symptoms can be life-threatening, nearly 80% of babies diagnosed with Trisomy 13 don't survive past their first year. Those that do survive may face more life-threatening complications after their first year including an increased risk of developing cancer and seizures.Jan 25, 2023

What is the longest someone has lived with Patau syndrome?

Survivals beyond the first year of life are unusual, and beyond the first decade are exceptional, only seven patients over 10 being reported to date [11], [16], [17], [20], [21], [22], three of which over 18 [17], [20], [21]. The oldest patient so far reported is an adult of 32 years of age [21].

Why is trisomy 13 so fatal?

Each cell normally contains 23 pairs of chromosomes, which carry the genes you inherit from your parents. But a baby with Patau's syndrome has 3 copies of chromosome 13, instead of 2. This severely disrupts normal development and, in many cases, results in miscarriage, stillbirth or the baby dying shortly after birth.

So K Monica Kelly you had no love in your heart to give to your baby for such a little time that the child would live? All you could see is an extra chromosome and not a beautiful baby to love?

1 posted on 02/03/2024 6:27:52 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Here’s a clue:
- Sex leads to babies
- Birth control is 5 cents per use, or less
- Abortions cost $1,000+

Do the math.
Don’t make others pay for your laziness or mistakes

The moral and economic cases against abortion are irrefutable


2 posted on 02/03/2024 6:31:43 AM PST by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Morgana

Husseincare doesn’t cover that?


3 posted on 02/03/2024 6:31:54 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: IncPen

Sounds like she wanted this baby until she found out the child had Trisomy 13, then she wanted an abortion.

The baby would most likely die after being born and she can’t love the child for a few hours before it passes?

Even with Trisomy 13 the baby still feels the pain of being aborted.

What is wrong with these women?


4 posted on 02/03/2024 6:40:23 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Seems to me she should move to California where she can get her abortion and they’ll throw in a sweetener and trans op her to a male so it doesn’t happen again, all for free. She also gets frequent flyer points towards a free boob job if she’s an illegal migrant


5 posted on 02/03/2024 6:42:27 AM PST by chuckee
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To: Morgana

Obviously the life of the mother was not at risk. Every state allows for termination of pregnancy in that condition


6 posted on 02/03/2024 6:45:03 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: IncPen

Umm, she is married and wanted another baby.


7 posted on 02/03/2024 6:46:54 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Morgana

If she doesn’t like the TN laws, nobody’s keeping her here.


8 posted on 02/03/2024 6:46:55 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant tastes of death but once.")
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To: Morgana
What is wrong with these women?

You mean other than making their own decisions regarding their bodies and families.
9 posted on 02/03/2024 6:51:06 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Morgana

Abortion is NOT health CARE...for either the mother, or, the baby.


10 posted on 02/03/2024 7:01:01 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Morgana
What is wrong with these women?

50 years of ghoulish propaganda making them believe it's "their" body and "their" choice. Disgusting, but I think in most cases the concept of fetal suffering doesn't even enter their minds. It doesn't absolve them of moral responsibility of course, murder is murder, but they have been deceived.
11 posted on 02/03/2024 7:03:25 AM PST by fluffy
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I wonder what the impact is on future fertility by stopping a pregnancy abruptly versus letting it to term.

She had trouble conceiving this baby.

How do hormones get disrupted in a body by abortion?

Is she more or less likely to get pregnant again after an abortion versus giving birth as a result of natural labor?

I had a hairdresser who had a hard time getting pregnant for the second time. She had waited awhile after the first because she and her husband got married young due to an unplanned pregnancy. All those years of birth control pills took a toll.

Well, guess what she found out when she went to her doctor six months post birth because she was concerned something was wrong since her periods didn’t start up again and she had other symptoms that made her think she had cancer or something bad?

Five months later she two babies to add to the nursery of the one whose first birthday was still a couple weeks away.


12 posted on 02/03/2024 7:08:36 AM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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Notice they always substitute the word Abortion with Health Care. And the abortion is not needed, it’s wanted


13 posted on 02/03/2024 7:10:10 AM PST by pangaea6
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To: ComputerGuy

Apparently they have trouble with decisions since they cannot take simple and easy precautions so their actions won’t end up with the killing of an unborn child.


14 posted on 02/03/2024 7:12:50 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Morgana

“What is wrong with these women?”

Many babies with trisomy 13 and 18 die in the first year of life. Survivors all have severe cognitive impairment. There has been a debate among both professionals and parents about whether it is appropriate to provide life-sustaining interventions to babies with these serious conditions.

On one side of the debate are those who argue that there is no point in providing invasive, painful, and expensive procedures when the only outcomes are either early death or survival with severe cognitive impairment. Others suggest that, although mortality is high and cognitive impairment universal, babies with these conditions have an acceptable quality of life.

This is not an easy decision to make. Having a child that will have to go through those painful procedures to sustain a life that in most cases doesn’t rate anything over an acceptable quality of life.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28365826/

“...she can’t love the child for a few hours before it passes?”

By allowing it to live she may be torturing the child and doesn’t want to do that either. And there’s no way of telling that prior to birth. So maybe there is more pain in making the decision to end the life of a child in the womb as there is if the child suffers after birth.

But at least it has come down to medical reasons and not a blanket ruling by the feds for religious purposes or to garnish votes. So maybe the ousting of the misapplied Roe to get the federal government out of the medical business needs to apply to everyone except the parents and doctors and the pain it will cause both ways. Isn’t that why Roe was tossed and celebrated for getting it down to the level of the parents and medical teams?

I don’t fault people for having an opinion. But in the long run, it is just an opinion. And if it will alleviate pain in a child, doesn’t that measurement belong to the parents and how much pain they will suffer for the decision for the rest of their lives? So isn’t it one they should make?

wy69


15 posted on 02/03/2024 7:15:24 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: Morgana

“What is wrong with these women?”

Many babies with trisomy 13 and 18 die in the first year of life. Survivors all have severe cognitive impairment. There has been a debate among both professionals and parents about whether it is appropriate to provide life-sustaining interventions to babies with these serious conditions.

On one side of the debate are those who argue that there is no point in providing invasive, painful, and expensive procedures when the only outcomes are either early death or survival with severe cognitive impairment. Others suggest that, although mortality is high and cognitive impairment universal, babies with these conditions have an acceptable quality of life.

This is not an easy decision to make. Having a child that will have to go through those painful procedures to sustain a life that in most cases doesn’t rate anything over an acceptable quality of life.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28365826/

“...she can’t love the child for a few hours before it passes?”

By allowing it to live she may be torturing the child and doesn’t want to do that either. And there’s no way of telling that prior to birth. So maybe there is more pain in making the decision to end the life of a child in the womb as there is if the child suffers after birth.

But at least it has come down to medical reasons and not a blanket ruling by the feds for religious purposes or to garnish votes. So maybe the ousting of the misapplied Roe to get the federal government out of the medical business needs to apply to everyone except the parents and doctors and the pain it will cause both ways. Isn’t that why Roe was tossed and celebrated for getting it down to the level of the parents and medical teams?

I don’t fault people for having an opinion. But in the long run, it is just an opinion. And if it will alleviate pain in a child, doesn’t that measurement belong to the parents and how much pain they will suffer for the decision for the rest of their lives? So isn’t it one they should make?

wy69


16 posted on 02/03/2024 7:15:25 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: Morgana

I just read this about precious baby Bristol Rain before I logged on to FR.

https://www.facebook.com/SaveTheStorks


17 posted on 02/03/2024 7:16:46 AM PST by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: whitney69

She does not have to keep the baby if it lives! Tennessee has safe haven laws and thousands would adopt the kid.

No one is making these women keep a disabled child they can’t raise. We are just saying don’t kill them.


18 posted on 02/03/2024 7:20:18 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: IncPen

The origin of the expression “eff around and find out”


19 posted on 02/03/2024 7:21:38 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Morgana
Well lady I, strictly for healthcare, would like oral sex. But that evil Texas outlaws that!

PENAL CODE TITLE 5. OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON CHAPTER 21. SEXUAL OFFENSES Sec. 21.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter: (1) "Deviate sexual intercourse" means: (A) any contact between any part of the genitals of one person and the mouth or anus of another person; or

Bill striking unconstitutional state law that criminalized homosexuality fails to meet critical deadline in the Texas House……. Guess it just petered out….

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/11/texas-sodomy-ban-repeal-bill/

We all have our issues!

20 posted on 02/03/2024 7:30:45 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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