Airbus Plans A380 Hydrogen Flights In 2026 After Successful Power On Of ZEROe Engine

Simple Flying ^ | 21 January 2024 | BY ANTHONY BANG AN

[Tell It Right]

So they're saying there might be a bigger one we don't know about?

You obviously haven't been reading the many UFO articles that sound like scripts from the X-Files. LOL

[Red Badger]

The Russians always have something bigger.................

[ClearCase_guy]

Science says CO2 is not a poison.

It's not a poison, except when it is a poison.

John Roberts, of course, holds a third view and says that CO2 is a tax.

[oil_dude]

Put a transgender in the pilot seat and you have a recipe for success.

[Yo-Yo]

In June 2023, the team at Airbus successfully tested the hydrogen fuel cell system, which reached 1.2 megawatts, its full power level. Later that year, the propulsion system prototype, which includes the hydrogen fuel cell system and the electric motors, was powered on at 1.2 megawatts at the E-Aircracft House in Munich.

Jet engine propulsion; the comparison of power between a car and an aircraft?

1 Megawatt equals 1341 horsepower. For an aircraft like a Boeing 777 with two GE 90-115B engines each engine produces roughly 23 Megawatt of power during cruise flight with a fully loaded aircraft. This is 30,843 horsepower.

Not going to be more than a twin engine 15 seat commuter aircraft.

[Rappini]

I hope they do better than the Hindenburg.

[Sacajaweau]

And the hydrogen comes from where?

[Red Badger]

Water.

Electrolysis.

Electricity.

Power Plant.

Natural Gas, Coal......................

[BipolarBob]

It’s not zero emissions, it’s remote emissions.

[BigFreakinToad]

Pass.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "My college thermo class was taught by a genuine NASA scientist. He had the class work through complicated applications of all the Green energy schemes we see today. Even given the most generous assumptions none of them beat just using plane old oil-based energy."

Hydro-- and carbon-- makes for a nice word, so much more informative than "fossil fuel."

Your college instructor taught you well and effectively. It is the journalism and political science majors who "blather" on in words. Because "complicated applications" are just too complicated....

Let's all run out a burn a fossil to see how those fossil fuels actually work....

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "It’s not zero emissions, it’s remote emissions."

Bravo. In the same manner as ground meat comes from a plastic-wrapped package.

[Gaffer]

They wouldn’t be generating hydrogen on the spot (i.e., in the plane). Likely, it would be hydrogen introduced from storage tanks on the ground into the plane, and it would either be highly compressed or more densely stored in some sort of metal hydride material where the stored hydrogen could be released as needed by heating.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "They wouldn’t be generating hydrogen on the spot (i.e., in the plane). Likely, it would be hydrogen introduced from storage tanks on the ground into the plane, and it would either be highly compressed or more densely stored in some sort of metal hydride material where the stored hydrogen could be released as needed by heating."

Of course. That's why such terms are entering the media vocabulary such as "green hydrogen" and "blue hydrogen" and more. Because words are so much better at snake oil sales than are those darned equations and "stored" hydrogen. After all "stored" jet fuel....

[blitz128]

Great point, more nimby, cue southpark “thanks”

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

And this looks like an attempt to save the A-380 that few want.

[Gaffer]

I did some engineering work on a bus that stored hydrogen in this manner used to power an ICE engine during the Obama Administration.

The problems with on-ground storage and compression transfer fueling to the hydride tanks on the bus was not a convenient or timely process, for sure.

[PGR88]

The socialist central planners in Europe are not done pissing away money on the A380 yet!

[PLMerite]

“The output of a fuel cell is electricity. There is no combustion that produces a jet of hot gases. It’s basically a hydrogen powered battery.”

I’m not an authority on this, but I know race cars have fuel cells, and it’s a way to manage the movement of the liquid fuel in the tank. Maybe this with Hydrogen?

[NorthMountain]

This entire project is profoundly dishonest.

Hydrogen does not occur in nature; hydrogen COMPOUNDS occur in nature. Energy must be expended to crack those compounds.

As usual, the question remains: what source of energy is used to crack out the hydrogen? Solar? Wind? You’re kidding, right?

They’re not making a hydrogen powered airplane, they’re making a coal/methane/nuclear powered airplane.