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Collapse Of Used EV Market Spells Doom For Biden’s Electric Car Dreams
issuesinsights.com ^ | January 4, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 01/04/2024 11:01:51 AM PST by Red Badger

“The electric things have their life too. Paltry as those lives are.” – Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

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Just as President Joe Biden starts showering hundreds of billions more of taxpayers’ money to “electrify” the nation’s fleet of automobiles, the bottom is falling out of the EV market.

The latest indication is the sharp drop in prices for used EVs.

A report from iSeeCars.com, a search engine for auto buyers, found that the average price for all cars declined 5% in 2023 compared with 2022.

But the resale price EVs plunged 33%.

While a used EV sold for an average of $52,821 in 2022, it went for less than $35,000 in 2023, which means they can be had for just slightly more than the average price for all cars.

Even with this dramatic decline in prices, it took 40% longer to sell an EV in 2023 than it did the year before. Used gas-powered cars, in contrast, sold 10% faster than they did in 2022.

“This combination of lower prices and slower sales suggests EVs have hit a market demand threshold that will be difficult to break through,” said Karl Brauer, iSeeCars executive analyst.

Why is the used EV market in trouble? Bloomberg speculates that “Buyers are shunning them due to a lack of subsidies, a desire to wait for better technology, and continued shortfalls in charging infrastructures.”

But it’s not just the used EV market that is cratering. iSeeCars found the same trends with new EV sales. The time it took to get an EV off a dealer’s lot more than doubled in 2023. It now takes roughly three times as long to see an EV than a conventional car, despite price cuts and Biden’s huge EV tax credit.

Nearly half of EV owners buy a gas-powered one for their next vehicle, according to a study from S&P Global, titled “Does the auto industry have an EV loyalty problem?”

The collapse in used EV prices is hurting the sale of new ones. Why plunk down big money for a car that will lose value faster and be harder to sell down the road?

Rental car companies are deciding not to. Hertz scaled back its plans to add more EVs to its rental fleet, citing high repair costs and declining resale value. German-based rental car company Sixt said it’s phasing out Tesla rentals from its fleets because of reduced resale value.

And that’s on top of the fact that EVs are more prone to need (more expensive) repairs, lose significant range in bad weather, and are a pain to recharge. The NBC affiliate in Philadelphia recently filed this story:

On a cold fall day, several electric vehicle drivers were waiting for a turn to plug into one of the public chargers at a strip mall parking lot in South Philly.

‘It’s like, man, you got to be here 40 minutes, 50 minutes, and then you got to spend another hour here to charge,’ said Kevin Taylor, an Uber driver who two months into using an electric vehicle was already considering switching back to gas.

So, let’s sum up: New EVs aren’t selling, despite massive government subsidies. Used EVs aren’t selling. People who own EVs often give up on them and switch back to gas-powered cars.

You’d think the Biden administration would respect the wants and needs of the car-buying public. Instead, it’s kowtowing to radical eco-leftists and is spending billions upon billions to build charging stations, massively subsidize the EV manufacturing business, and hand out lucrative tax credits to EV buyers.

Do leftists dream of electric cars? Yes. But for everyone else, the EV mania is turning into a costly nightmare.

— Written by the I&I Editorial Board


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; sales; transportation
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To: Responsibility2nd

Search youtube, it’s been done.

“Gaslas” are a thing.


41 posted on 01/04/2024 12:14:16 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Red Badger
Redneck cars
42 posted on 01/04/2024 12:15:08 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Red Badger

I have seen a video where someone attach a generator to an electric car. If you ran the generator full time, you would still need some batteries but not sure how many.


43 posted on 01/04/2024 12:18:39 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: Responsibility2nd

It is not the Demoncrats’ agenda...it is actually the WEF agenda, and Demoncrats only push it because they have been bought off by Klaus and Soros


44 posted on 01/04/2024 12:22:13 PM PST by jpp113
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To: Responsibility2nd

45 posted on 01/04/2024 12:22:35 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dfwgator

“The point is to make personal transportation unaffordable for the masses, thus forcing them into “15-Minute Cities”.

Fortunately for the rest of us those cities will be mostly Democrats,
Everybody else will have what they want and a lifestyle THEY choose.
Democrats belong in camps anyway. They can’t survive without being told what to do.


46 posted on 01/04/2024 12:22:52 PM PST by rellic
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To: Red Badger

Nice. I think that would work just fine with a team of Clydesdales pulling it.


47 posted on 01/04/2024 12:26:44 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Red Badger

You left the word “Wet” out between the words “Car” and “Dreams”. The corrected title should be

Collapse Of Used EV Market Spells Doom For Biden’s Electric Car Wet Dreams


48 posted on 01/04/2024 12:33:16 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Make the World Safe for Humanity--Kill the Terrorists)
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To: Gnome1949

Liquidation of the kulaks by stealth. Stalin would be so proud of his American protégés.


49 posted on 01/04/2024 12:42:38 PM PST by Orosius (Wake America Up Again )
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Electricity and water don’t mix...................


50 posted on 01/04/2024 12:44:03 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Anyone who uses cordless power tools already knew this.

There’s a sucker born four times a minute.


51 posted on 01/04/2024 1:47:02 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: Red Badger

Right on schedule. Who wants a frickin’ EV?


52 posted on 01/04/2024 1:54:35 PM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: Red Badger

If it is Biden providing the water, I say “Pop the Corn for Corn Pop!”


53 posted on 01/04/2024 2:21:02 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Make the World Safe for Humanity--Kill the Terrorists)
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To: eyeamok
They sold kits to swap out Jaguar motors with Chevy 350’s and Turbo 400 trans, I’m sure there will be an EV swap soon

The EPA will step in with monstrous fines. Not long ago they were prosecuting companies that made diesel mods and fining them millions. Even little guys were getting hammered by the feds. I guaranty that you had better not touch their holy grail and modify one in any way. It sure would be fun though.

54 posted on 01/04/2024 2:30:07 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: eyeamok

I can see someone like “Roadster Shop” build a chassis/pan to convert a Tesla.


55 posted on 01/04/2024 2:31:52 PM PST by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: rellic

“Fortunately for the rest of us those cities will be mostly Democrats,
Everybody else will have what they want and a lifestyle THEY choose.”

Do you live in Russia or something? Here in the US and Europe, our masters have NO PLANS to allow us to choose jack. It’s either 15 minute cities, or living in the woods, in a tent, until you’re caught, and jailed.


56 posted on 01/04/2024 3:13:28 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: eyeamok

You can put a 350 V8 and THM400 in virtually any ICE car, with just a little ingenuity and some sweat. You can’t fit them in ANY EV, they’re too big. There’s no place for a gas tank, either, the batteries are in the way.


57 posted on 01/04/2024 4:06:19 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It can be done. If an entity
we’re to design a rolling
chassis that the car body
rests on. The chassis would
incorporate the drivetrain.
I’ve done this with a 1940’s
era pickup. Tube chassis race
vehicles utilize the same
concept. For the $30,000
battery replacement it would
be worth the effort if EPA
standards could be met, and
It’s my guess the cost would
be about half of that 30K.
Just my .02...


58 posted on 01/04/2024 4:40:00 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: catnipman

[... and generally, even a fender-bender totals those things ... “

Some insurance companies are refusing to ensure them, post-accident.


59 posted on 01/04/2024 4:55:24 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: BobL

“It’s either 15 minute cities, or living in the woods”
I live in the woods.
Very rural Hawaii.
I have a wonderful ocean view
I have access to guns, ammo,
shelter, water and food. Neighbors have horses so I can get around.
City people, Democrats voted for the Shiite they live in, let them suffer the consequences.


60 posted on 01/04/2024 6:11:26 PM PST by rellic (the "woods)
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