Posted on 12/17/2023 10:56:21 AM PST by Chickensoup
I am not sure where to get vitamin and mineral advice particularly ratios. Pcp sends me to nutritionist who is clueless. Osteopathy? Naturopaths?
I understand now that ratios od vitamins D magnesium and calcium have to be looked after to not demineralize bones or clog arteries.
Your thoughts appreciated.
I will leave this here and come back to it later.
I am not sure where to get vitamin and mineral advice particularly ratios. Pcp sends me to nutritionist who is clueless. Osteopathy? Naturopaths?
I understand now that ratios od vitamins D magnesium and calcium have to be looked after to not demineralize bones or clog arteries.
Your thoughts appreciated.
I will leave this here and come back to it later.
You should let people know WHERE you live. Some things are best done in person.
Michael Savage, yes that one, is in expert on the topic and has written a couple of books on it. Highly recommend checking into it. Also, see if you can find the Vitamin Bible, and check out Dr. Eric Berg on youtube.
I have tried nutritionists in the past too, and also find them useless for any real help.
ConsumerLab tests the vitamins and herbs for quality. The site also provides a distillation of studies involving vitamins, minerals, and herbs etc.
Just become a Google Doctor. Most people are these days.
One person said they had $2000 worth of supplements in their cabinet, and half of them don’t work. Problem is, they don’t know which half.
If you're talking a nutritionist, you might be able to figure it out yourself.
Look for a doctor that advocates for Naturopathic/Holistic care which encompasses a vitamin/herb regime rather than immediately prescribing chemical drugs. They usually also include chiropractic and acupuncture treatments. Just do a search in your area for “Naturopathic/Holistic” physicians.
My mother had such a physician and I believe his treatment helped her live for years longer than she would have under traditional treatment. The mushroom vitamins were expensive but her cancer cells started shrinking after about sixty days on the mushroom based vitamins he put her on. Her cancer doctor was surprised since he had expected the spot on her lung to have grown in size.
The scientific test results of supplements are generally not impressive. That’s surprising when one might expect to see positive outcomes from taking anti-oxident or omega 3 supplements for example but really don’t.
Yet those things in your diet can help.
Vitamin D3 is one of the few supplements with a significant positive results, but many people probably take too high a dose.
You mentioned calcium, you should really be careful and think twice about that one since it can actually have negative effects in some people.
I personally take magnesium, but I suggest avoiding magnesium citrate due to very poor absorbtion. I take magnesium glycinate, and am considering some other variants.
I take a few other things.
I’m not qualified to give advice, but I enjoy posting anyway
My OB sent me to a nutritionist in 1994. As an RN, I was beyond disgusted, aside from her obesity. Right up there with the clueless, brainwashed, jab pushers that spew back on a test the appropriate lies to get licensed and join the cabal.
Advice as to nutrition is complicated by the effects of diet, health issues that may cause malabsorption or increased requirements, medications that can increase requirements, and the particular nutritional compound taken.
As for Vitamin D, magnesium, and calcium, magnesium is hard to measure in the body and tends to be hard to absorb unless it is taken in an amino acid chelated form. Most Americans get enough calcium, but tend to have inadequate magnesium and Vitamin D.
Nutritionists are mainly focused on nutrition and how to eat health-wise.
Your primary doctor is a good place to start but you might also consult a seasoned herbalist. Here is one that has a local radio program.
https://www.rhondadial.com/ Just an example.
At first I was a big skeptical but Rhonda has taught me a lot. Her focus is on foods and supplements and how each person’s need in this area can be unique. First you have to find out what’s lacking or out of balance. Herbalists can often be somewhat zealous but they can be useful. At least in this area they are not necessarily fruitcakes.
Find a great naturopathic doctor to Promote health instead of just fighting infection and symptoms.
Avoid turning your acute health issues into chronic disease money-makers for the medical-industrial-political system.
You just stop taking something for a month.
If you don't notice any change it was something you did not need.
A journal is often helpful for this.
Now this is in the supplement area not in the vitamin area.
For vitamins you should look at the RDA as the absolute minimum you can take and survive.
Then you look at the maximum daily allowance. That is the most you can take and survive.
You want something between those two.
You also need to look at your health needs. I had a friend who had diminished kidney function. She had to be careful what she took. I have another friend who has MTHFR. He has to be very careful as well.
If you can do math then you can do the ratios yourself if you buy only single supplements rather than depnding on buying the correct mixtures. Actually if you have combinations of mixtures and singles you can also get the ratios right, although the math is slightly harder. Still high school math at most, though. You do have to know what mixture you want, of course.
PCP??
99 % of “supplement” pimping is nothing but money making grifts. Just eat a well balanced selection of food and devil take the hind most.
“PCP??”
We used to call it angel dust. (Just kidding)
your advice is on the money re Mag and calcium. Most DO take too much D3 as well but it’s typically because you need to be sufficient in mag in order to absorb D, therefore, everytime people test their D levels they never go up. Get on a good mag, like glycinate and/or malate and you’ll be able to absorb the D.
I also like iodine and selenium and, as part of that protocol, which also includes mag, should be Vitamin C and a good salt.
For the record and benefit of the OP, the RDA for nutrients is generally only enough to keep you out of the grave. We need much higher doses of most nutrients to make a difference. ie RDA for mag is 450 mg/day but I take 600-900mg/day. Iodine’s RDA is 150mcg (miniscule); I take 12.5-25mg/day
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