Posted on 11/17/2023 11:35:43 AM PST by Red Badger
Scientists have been chasing the dream of harnessing the reactions that power the Sun since the dawn of the atomic era. Interest, and investment, in the carbon-free energy source is heating up.
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For the better part of a century now, astronomers and physicists have known that a process called thermonuclear fusion has kept the Sun and the stars shining for millions or even billions of years. And ever since that discovery, they’ve dreamed of bringing that energy source down to Earth and using it to power the modern world.
It’s a dream that’s only become more compelling today, in the age of escalating climate change. Harnessing thermonuclear fusion and feeding it into the world’s electric grids could help make all our carbon dioxide-spewing coal- and gas-fired plants a distant memory. Fusion power plants could offer zero-carbon electricity that flows day and night, with no worries about wind or weather — and without the drawbacks of today’s nuclear fission plants, such as potentially catastrophic meltdowns and radioactive waste that has to be isolated for thousands of centuries.
In fact, fusion is the exact opposite of fission: Instead of splitting heavy elements such as uranium into lighter atoms, fusion generates energy by merging various isotopes of light elements such as hydrogen into heavier atoms.
To make this dream a reality, fusion scientists must ignite fusion here on the ground — but without access to the crushing levels of gravity that accomplish this feat at the core of the Sun. Doing it on Earth means putting those light isotopes into a reactor and finding a way to heat them to hundreds of millions of degrees centigrade — turning them into an ionized “plasma” akin to the insides of a lightning bolt, only hotter and harder to control. And it means finding a way to control that lightning, usually with some kind of magnetic field that will grab the plasma and hold on tight while it writhes, twists and tries to escape like a living thing.
Both challenges are daunting, to say the least. It was only in late 2022, in fact, that a multibillion-dollar fusion experiment in California finally got a tiny isotope sample to put out more thermonuclear energy than went in to ignite it. And that event, which lasted only about one-tenth of a nanosecond, had to be triggered by the combined output of 192 of the world’s most powerful lasers.
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This approach to fusion starts with a tiny solid target filled with deuterium-tritium fuel that gets hit from every side with intense pulses of energy. This can be done indirectly (left) by surrounding the target with a small metal cylinder. Lasers strike the insides of the cylinder, generating X-rays that heat the fuel pellet. The laser beams can also heat the target directly (right). Either way, the fuel pellet implodes, and the resulting energy release quickly blows the target apart. The indirect approach was used by the National Ignition Facility in the heralded “break even” experiments that produced more energy than the lasers delivered. But this approach to fusion is probably many decades from being a practical way to generate electricity.
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Today, though, the fusion world is awash in plans for much more practical machines. Novel technologies such as high-temperature superconductors are promising to make fusion reactors smaller, simpler, cheaper and more efficient than once seemed possible. And better still, all those decades of slow, dogged progress seem to have passed a tipping point, with fusion researchers now experienced enough to design plasma experiments that work pretty much as predicted.
“There is a coming of age of technological capability that now matches up with the challenge of this quest,” says Michl Binderbauer, CEO of the fusion firm TAE Technologies in Southern California.
Indeed, more than 40 commercial fusion firms have been launched since TAE became the first in 1998 — most of them in the past five years, and many with a power-reactor design that they hope to have operating in the next decade or so. “‘I keep thinking that, oh sure, we’ve reached our peak,” says Andrew Holland, who maintains a running count as CEO of the Fusion Industry Association, an advocacy group he founded in 2018 in Washington, DC. “But no, we keep seeing more and more companies come in with different ideas.”
None of this has gone unnoticed by private investment firms, which have backed the fusion startups with some $6 billion and counting. This combination of new technology and private money creates a happy synergy, says Jonathan Menard, head of research at the Department of Energy’s Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory in New Jersey, and not a participant in any of the fusion firms.
Compared with the public sector, companies generally have more resources for trying new things, says Menard. “Some will work, some won’t. Some might be somewhere in between,” he says. “But we’re going to find out, and that’s good.”
Granted, there’s ample reason for caution — starting with the fact that none of these firms has so far shown that it can generate net fusion energy even briefly, much less ramp up to a commercial-scale machine within a decade. “Many of the companies are promising things on timescales that generally we view as unlikely,” Menard says.
But then, he adds, “we’d be happy to be proven wrong.”
With more than 40 companies trying to do just that, we’ll know soon enough if one or more of them succeeds. In the meantime, to give a sense of the possibilities, here is an overview of the challenges that every fusion reactor has to overcome, and a look at some of the best-funded and best-developed designs for meeting those challenges.
Prerequisites for fusion
The first challenge for any fusion device is to light the fire, so to speak: It has to take whatever mix of isotopes it’s using as fuel, and get the nuclei to touch, fuse and release all that beautiful energy.
This means literally “touch”: Fusion is a contact sport, and the reaction won’t even begin until the nuclei hit head on. What makes this tricky is that every atomic nucleus contains positively charged protons and — Physics 101 — positive charges electrically repel each other. So the only way to overcome that repulsion is to get the nuclei moving so fast that they crash and fuse before they’re deflected.
This need for speed requires a plasma temperature of at least 100 million degrees C. And that’s just for a fuel mix of deuterium and tritium, the two heavy isotopes of hydrogen. Other isotope mixes would have to get much hotter — which is why “DT” is still the fuel of choice in most reactor designs.
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In fusion reactors, light isotopes fuse to form heavier ones and release energy in the process. Shown here are four examples of reactor fuels. The first, D-T, combines two heavy forms of hydrogen (deuterium and tritium). This mix is most common because it begins to fuse at the lowest temperature, but tritium is radioactive, and the generated neutrons can make the reactor radioactive. A reaction between two deuterium nuclei (D-D) proceeds more slowly and requires high temperatures. Using a deuterium-helium-3 mix is also less common, in part because helium-3 is rare and expensive. Perhaps the most tantalizing is a mix of protons and boron-11 (P-11B). Both isotopes are non-radioactive and abundant, while their fusion products are stable and easy to capture for energy extraction. The challenge will be to get the mix to fusion temperatures of more than 1 billion degrees Celsius.
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But whatever the fuel, the quest to reach fusion temperatures generally comes down to a race between researchers’ efforts to pump in energy with an external source such as microwaves, or high-energy beams of neutral atoms, and plasma ions’ attempts to radiate that energy away as fast as they receive it.
The ultimate goal is to get the plasma past the temperature of “ignition,” which is when fusion reactions will start to generate enough internal energy to make up for that radiating away of energy — and power a city or two besides.
But this just leads to the second challenge: Once the fire is lit, any practical reactor will have to keep it lit — as in, confine these superheated nuclei so that they’re close enough to maintain a reasonable rate of collisions for long enough to produce a useful flow of power.
In most reactors, this means protecting the plasma inside an airtight chamber, since stray air molecules would cool down the plasma and quench the reaction. But it also means holding the plasma away from the chamber walls, which are so much colder than the plasma that the slightest touch will also kill the reaction. The problem is, if you try to hold the plasma away from the walls with a non-physical barrier, such as a strong magnetic field, the flow of ions will quickly get distorted and rendered useless by currents and fields within the plasma.
Unless, that is, you’ve shaped the field with a great deal of care and cleverness — which is why the various confinement schemes account for some of the most dramatic differences between reactor designs.
Finally, practical reactors will have to include some way of extracting the fusion energy and turning it into a steady flow of electricity. Although there has never been any shortage of ideas for this last challenge, the details depend critically on which fuel mix the reactor uses.
With deuterium-tritium fuel, for example, the reaction produces most of its energy in the form of high-speed particles called neutrons, which can’t be confined with a magnetic field because they don’t have a charge. This lack of an electric charge allows the neutrons to fly not only through the magnetic fields but also through the reactor walls. So the plasma chamber will have to be surrounded by a “blanket”: a thick layer of some heavy material like lead or steel that will absorb the neutrons and turn their energy into heat. The heat can then be used to boil water and generate electricity via the same kind of steam turbines used in conventional power plants.
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A fusion power plant could use one of several different reactor types, but it will turn fusion energy into electricity the same way that fossil-fuel power plants or nuclear-fission reactors do: Heat from the energy source will boil water to make steam, the steam will flow through a steam turbine, and the turbine will turn an electric generator to send power into the grid.
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Many DT reactor designs also call for including some lithium in the blanket material, so that the neutrons will react with that element to produce new tritium nuclei. This step is critical: Since each DT fusion event consumes one tritium nucleus, and since this isotope is radioactive and doesn’t exist in nature, the reactor would soon run out of fuel if it didn’t exploit this opportunity to replenish it.
The complexities of DT fuel are cumbersome enough that some of the more audacious fusion startups have opted for alternative fuel mixes. Binderbauer’s TAE, for example, is aiming for what many consider the ultimate fusion fuel: a mix of protons and boron-11. Not only are both ingredients stable, nontoxic and abundant, their sole reaction product is a trio of positively charged helium-4 nuclei whose energy is easily captured with magnetic fields, with no need for a blanket.
But alternative fuels present different challenges, such as the fact that TAE will have to get its proton-boron-11 mix to up fusion temperatures of at least a billion degrees Celsius, roughly 10 times higher than the DT threshold.
A plasma donut
The basics of these three challenges — igniting the plasma, sustaining the reaction, and harvesting the energy — were clear from the earliest days of fusion energy research. And by the 1950s, innovators in the field had begun to come up with any number of schemes for solving them — most of which fell by the wayside after 1968, when Soviet physicists went public with a design they called the tokamak.
Like several of the earlier reactor concepts, tokamaks featured a plasma chamber something like a hollow donut — a shape that allowed the ions to circulate endlessly without hitting anything — and controlled the plasma ions with magnetic fields generated by current-carrying coils wrapped around the outside of the donut.
But tokamaks also featured a new set of coils that caused an electric current to go looping around and around the donut right through the plasma, like a circular lightning bolt. This current gave the magnetic fields a subtle twist that went a surprisingly long way toward stabilizing the plasma. And while the first of these machines still couldn’t get anywhere close to the temperatures and confinement times a power reactor would need, the results were so much better than anything seen before that the fusion world pretty much switched to tokamaks en masse.
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Tokamak reactors (left) and related designs known as stellarator reactors (right) both confine the superhot plasma (yellow) with magnetic fields (purple) that are generated by electromagnetic coils (blue and red). With tokamaks, the most common type of reactor, these coils also start an electric current flowing through the plasma, which helps keep the reaction stable. The stellarator design likewise confines the plasma inside an airtight donut, but eliminates the need for a donut-circling current by controlling the plasma with a much more complex set of external coils (blue).
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Since then, more than 200 tokamaks of various designs have been built worldwide, and physicists have learned so much about tokamak plasmas that they can confidently predict the performance of future machines. That confidence is why an international consortium of funding agencies has been willing to commit more than $20 billion to build ITER (Latin for “the way”): a tokamak scaled up to the size of a 10-story building. Under construction in southern France since 2010, ITER is expected to start experiments with deuterium-tritium fuel in 2035. And when it does, physicists are quite sure that ITER will be able to hold and study burning fusion plasmas for minutes at a time, providing a unique trove of data that will hopefully be useful in the construction of power reactors.
But ITER was also designed as a research machine with a lot more instrumentation and versatility than a working power reactor would ever need — which is why two of today’s best-funded fusion startups are racing to develop tokamak reactors that would be a lot smaller, simpler and cheaper.
First out of the gate was Tokamak Energy, a UK firm founded in 2009. The company has received some $250 million in venture capital over the years to develop a reactor based on “spherical tokamaks” — a particularly compact variation that looks more like a cored apple than a donut.
But coming up fast is Commonwealth Fusion Systems in Massachusetts, an MIT spinoff that wasn’t even launched until 2018. Although Commonwealth’s tokamak design uses a more conventional donut configuration, access to MIT’s extensive fundraising network has already brought the company nearly $2 billion.
Both firms are among the first to generate their magnetic fields with cables made of high-temperature superconductors (HTS). Discovered in the 1980s but only recently available in cable form, these materials can carry an electrical current without resistance even at a relatively torrid 77 Kelvins, or -196 degrees Celsius, warm enough to be achieved with liquid nitrogen or helium gas. This makes HTS cables much easier and cheaper to cool than the ones that ITER will use, since those will be made of conventional superconductors that need to be bathed in liquid helium at 4 Kelvins.
But more than that, HTS cables can generate much stronger magnetic fields in a much smaller space than their low-temperature counterparts — which means that both companies have been able to shrink their power plant designs to a fraction of the size of ITER.
As dominant as tokamaks have been, however, most of today’s fusion startups are not using that design. They’re reviving older alternatives that could be smaller, simpler and cheaper than tokamaks, if someone could make them work.
Plasma vortices
Prime examples of these revived designs are fusion reactors based on smoke-ring-like plasma vortices known as the field-reversed configuration (FRC). Resembling a fat, hollow cigar that spins on its axis like a gyroscope, an FRC vortex holds itself together with its own internal currents and magnetic fields — which means there’s no need for an FRC reactor to keep its ions endlessly circulating around a donut-shaped plasma chamber. In principle, at least, the vortex will happily stay put inside a straight cylindrical chamber, requiring only a light-touch external field to hold it steady. This means that an FRC-based reactor could ditch most of those pricey, power-hungry external field coils, making it smaller, simpler and cheaper than a tokamak or almost anything else.
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Shown here is a linear reactor concept based on an especially stable plasma vortex that is held together with its own internal currents and magnetic fields. Called the field-reversed configuration (FRC), it is formed from the merger of two simpler vortices that are fired from each end of the reaction chamber by plasma guns. Beams of fresh fuel coming in from the side keep the FRC hot and spinning briskly.
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In practice, unfortunately, the first experiments with these whirling plasma cigars back in the 1960s found that they always seemed to tumble out of control within a few hundred microseconds, which is why the approach was mostly pushed aside in the tokamak era.
Yet the basic simplicity of an FRC reactor never fully lost its appeal. Nor did the fact that FRCs could potentially be driven to extreme plasma temperatures without flying apart — which is why TAE chose the FRC approach in 1998, when the company started on its quest to exploit the 1-billion-degree proton-boron-11 reaction.
Binderbauer and his TAE cofounder, the late physicist Norman Rostoker, had come up with a scheme to stabilize and sustain the FRC vortex indefinitely: Just fire in beams of fresh fuel along the vortex’s outer edges to keep the plasma hot and the spin rate high.
It worked. By the mid-2010s, the TAE team had shown that those particle beams coming in from the side would, indeed, keep the FRC spinning and stable for as long as the beam injectors had power — just under 10 milliseconds with the lab’s stored-energy supply, but as long as they want (presumably) once they can siphon a bit of spare energy from a proton-boron-11-burning reactor. And by 2022, they had shown that their FRCs could retain that stability well above 70 million degrees C.
With the planned 2025 completion of its next machine, the 30-meter-long Copernicus, TAE is hoping to actually reach burn conditions above 100 million degrees (albeit using plain hydrogen as a stand-in). This milestone should give the TAE team essential data for designing their DaVinci machine: a reactor prototype that will (they hope) start feeding p-B11-generated electricity into the grid by the early 2030s.
Plasma in a can
Meanwhile, General Fusion of Vancouver, Canada, is partnering with the UK Atomic Energy Authority to construct a demonstration reactor for perhaps the strangest concept of them all, a 21st-century revival of magnetized target fusion. This 1970s-era concept amounts to firing a plasma vortex into a metal can, then crushing the can. Do that fast enough and the trapped plasma will be compressed and heated to fusion conditions. Do it often enough and a more or less continuous string of fusion energy pulses back out, and you’ll have a power reactor.
In General Fusion’s current concept, the metal can will be replaced by a molten lead-lithium mix that’s held by centrifugal force against the sides of a cylindrical container spinning at 400 RPM. At the start of each reactor cycle, a downward-pointing plasma gun will inject a vortex of ionized deuterium-tritium fuel — the “magnetized target” — which will briefly turn the whirling, metal-lined container into a miniature spherical tokamak. Next, a forest of compressed-air pistons arrayed around the container’s outside will push the lead-lithium mix into the vortex, crushing it from a diameter of three meters down to 30 centimeters within about five milliseconds, and raising the deuterium-tritium to fusion temperatures.
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Magnetized target fusion is the 1970s-era name for an approach that amounts to firing a plasma vortex into a metal can, then crushing the can. Shown here is a modern version in which the metal can is replaced by a molten lead-lithium mix that’s held against the sides of a spinning container by centrifugal force. Plasma guns fire vortices of deuterium-tritium plasma into the container’s hollow interior while pistons arrayed around the container’s outside push the lead-lithium mix inwards, crushing the plasma and igniting fusion. The blast pushes the molten lead-lithium mix back out and resets the system.
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The resulting blast will then strike the molten lead-lithium mix, pushing it back out to the rotating cylinder walls and resetting the system for the next cycle — which will start about a second later. Meanwhile, on a much slower timescale, pumps will steadily circulate the molten metal to the outside so that heat exchangers can harvest the fusion energy it’s absorbed, and other systems can scavenge the tritium generated from neutron-lithium interactions.
All these moving parts require some intricate choreography, but if everything works the way the simulations suggest, the company hopes to build a full-scale, deuterium-tritium-burning power plant by the 2030s.
It’s anybody’s guess when (or if) the particular reactor concepts mentioned here will result in real commercial power plants — or whether the first to market will be one of the many alternative reactor designs being developed by the other 40-plus fusion firms.
But then, few if any of these firms see the quest for fusion power as either a horse race or a zero-sum game. Many of them have described their rivalries as fierce, but basically friendly — mainly because, in a world that’s desperate for any form of carbon-free energy, there’s plenty of room for multiple fusion reactor types to be a commercial success.
“I will say my idea is better than their idea. But if you ask them, they will probably tell you that their idea is better than my idea,” says physicist Michel Laberge, General Fusion’s founder and chief scientist. “Most of these guys are serious researchers, and there’s no fundamental flaw in their schemes.” The actual chance of success, he says, is improved by having more possibilities. “And we do need fusion on this planet, badly.”
This article originally appeared in Knowable Magazine, a nonprofit publication dedicated to making scientific knowledge accessible to all. Sign up for Knowable Magazine’s newsletter.
what are the factors that are accelerating the development of fusion energy?
Answer from google including caveats:
Fusion energy has long been a promising but elusive goal, and there are several factors that are currently accelerating its development:
Advancements in Fusion Technologies: There have been significant advancements in fusion technologies, particularly in the development of magnetic confinement and inertial confinement fusion approaches. These technologies include tokamaks, stellarators, and laser inertial confinement fusion (ICF) systems, which have become more efficient and reliable.
International Collaboration: Fusion research is a global endeavor, with countries around the world collaborating on large-scale fusion experiments. Projects like ITER (International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor) in France, which is the world’s largest fusion experiment, involve contributions from 35 nations. This collaboration allows for the sharing of resources, expertise, and funding, speeding up progress.
Private Sector Investment: In recent years, there has been a growing interest from private companies in developing fusion as a viable energy source. Companies like TAE Technologies, Tokamak Energy, and First Light Fusion are investing in novel approaches to fusion and attracting significant private capital, which has accelerated research and development.
Advances in Materials Science: Fusion reactors operate under extreme conditions with high temperatures and radiation, which can damage materials over time. Advances in materials science have led to the development of materials capable of withstanding these harsh environments, prolonging the lifespan of fusion reactors and reducing maintenance costs.
Computational Modeling and AI: The use of advanced computational modeling and artificial intelligence (AI) techniques has improved our understanding of plasma behavior and helped optimize fusion reactor designs. These tools allow researchers to simulate and analyze complex physical processes more efficiently.
Climate Change and Energy Security: The urgent need to address climate change and reduce carbon emissions has increased the interest in clean and sustainable energy sources. Fusion offers the potential for a nearly limitless and environmentally friendly energy source, which has spurred greater investment and research efforts.
Improved Diagnostic Tools: Fusion researchers now have access to more sophisticated diagnostic tools and instruments, which provide better insights into plasma behavior and help identify and address challenges more effectively.
Regulatory Support: Governments in some countries have recognized the potential of fusion energy and are providing regulatory support, funding, and favorable policies to encourage its development.
Public Awareness and Support: Increased public awareness of the potential benefits of fusion energy has led to greater support for fusion research. This support can translate into increased funding and political will to push fusion development forward.
While significant progress has been made, it’s important to note that practical fusion energy is still some years away from becoming a reality. Technical challenges remain, and it may take several more decades before fusion power plants become commercially viable. Nonetheless, the factors mentioned above are contributing to the accelerated development of fusion energy, and there is optimism about its potential as a clean and abundant energy source for the future.
While significant progress has been made, it’s important to note that practical fusion energy is still some years away from becoming a reality.
Is Helion Energy a scam?
Answer from Google:
The geeks at Microsoft must not have read the history regarding fusion power, or else they wouldn’t have signed on with the Helion scam (“Everett nuclear fusion company nets first customer: Microsoft,” The Herald, May 10).
Fusion power has been the tantalizing source of infinite energy for the last 60 years. Large institutions and universities have tried, in vain, to make a practical fusion plant. The latest breakthrough was achieved by Fermi-lab with its huge laser-powered monster. After much scrutiny it was discovered that the machine did achieve ignition and that the energy output was greater than the energy input. But the difference was minute and to turn the devise into a megawatt producing factory is probably decades away.
France is building a huge version of the Tokamak machine in the hopes of harnessing the process but that won’t be running any time soon. Lockheed-Martin, a few years ago, announced that it had designed a small fusion reactor but it’s growing in size and it has yet to produce more energy than is needed to run it.
So the chances of Helion producing a workable fusion reactor is zero.
google question:
how long does it take for MIT’s new small tokamak fusion reactors to build up 100 Mj of stored energy?
Google Answer
As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, MIT’s SPARC project aimed to develop a small tokamak fusion reactor. However, I don’t have access to real-time data or updates beyond that date. The specific time it takes for a tokamak fusion reactor to build up 100 megajoules (MJ) of stored energy would depend on various factors, including the reactor’s size, design, and operating parameters.
In a fusion reactor like SPARC, the energy is typically generated by heating hydrogen isotopes to extremely high temperatures to create a plasma, and then confining and sustaining that plasma in a magnetic field. The rate at which energy is produced and stored depends on the heating power, confinement time, and other factors.
To estimate the time it would take to accumulate 100 MJ of stored energy in such a reactor, you would need detailed information about the reactor’s design and operating conditions, which may have evolved since my last update. Additionally, achieving sustained fusion reactions at this scale is a complex scientific and engineering challenge, and there may be ongoing research and development to improve the performance of such reactors.
I recommend checking the latest updates from MIT’s SPARC project or other relevant sources for the most current information on the progress and performance of small tokamak fusion reactors like SPARC. The timeline and technical details may have changed since my last knowledge update.
Google question.
Is Helion Energy a scam?
google Answer
As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, I do not have any specific information or evidence to suggest that Helion Energy is a scam. Helion Energy is a private company that has been working on developing nuclear fusion technology. Keep in mind that the status and reputation of companies can change over time, so it’s essential to conduct thorough research and due diligence if you are considering any investment or involvement with a company.
To determine the legitimacy of a company, you should consider the following steps:
Research the company: Look for information about the company’s history, founders, leadership team, and financial status. Check their website, news articles, and any publicly available information.
Check for regulatory compliance: Verify whether the company complies with relevant regulations and has the necessary permits and licenses to operate.
Review customer and employee feedback: Look for reviews, testimonials, or comments from customers and current or former employees to get a sense of the company’s reputation.
Consult reliable sources: Seek information from credible financial news sources, industry experts, and government agencies that regulate the industry.
Be cautious of red flags: Be wary of companies that promise guaranteed returns, lack transparency, or pressure you into making quick investment decisions.
Seek professional advice: Consider consulting with a financial advisor or legal expert before making any significant financial decisions or investments.
It’s important to note that the status of any company can change over time, and new information may have emerged since my last update. Therefore, I recommend conducting up-to-date research and due diligence before making any judgments or decisions regarding Helion Energy or any other company.
“Google Answer
As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, “
That is NOT Google.
That is NOT Google.
I’m using google AI.
If you have it set up right—google will give you anwers at the top of the page. Then on the right hand side it will give you the AI answers.
If I took the trouble to do so—I could probably get more up to date answers from one of the AI tools.
You could do all the above too.
Is Helion Energy a scam?
I gave you the answer from the right hand side of google which is the AI section.
On the top of the page there is the standard result.
Google found a result that matched the intent of question. This result might might please you more.
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Criticism. Retired Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory researcher Daniel Jassby mentioned Helion Energy in a letter included in the American Physical Society newsletter Physics & Society (April 2019) as being among fusion start-ups allegedly practicing “voodoo fusion” rather than legitimate science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helion_Energy#:~:text=CEO%20of%20OpenAI.-,Criticism,fusion%22%20rather%20than%20legitimate%20science.
Source?”
Not responsive to your question:
“AI can be used ...”
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You should know the answer here yourself.
Google AI does not know specifically as to whether particular fusion companies are using AI for particular parts of the their R&D. However, Google AI does know how AI would be used for particular parts of fusion research. They gave the list.
Then you’d have to ask yourself as to whether an MIT or Stanford scientists would make use of all the tools that were available to him.
Or you could make more in depth queries yourself —taking advantage of the tools that are available.
That’s a horse of a different color............
before three mile island, the great excitement with nuclear power was the possibility of greatly reduced cost of electricity
fission has been all about safety ever since.
but the great excitement about nuclear energy is not about safety. its about cost—as it was at the beginning of the nuclear age— because lowered costs of energy changes civilization. and really lowered costs of energy really change civilization.
So what would be the best way to for fission to compete with fusion in terms of price? That is, what would make the cost of fission produced electrity drop to the point where it was competitive with fusion produced electricity.
Well, as long as we are doing miracles every day—why not convert electrons directly into electricity instead converting them to heat and then steam and then 19th century electricity generation.
how would you do that?
Well first tell everyone in the fission industry who cares to listen that they are dead monkey meat if they can’t figure out how to compete with fusion. just kidding.
the way you do that is to use AI to figure out how to tune or bend or coil or braid the fast electrons put out by the fissionable materials.
So I asked google AI
how would you use AI to figure out how to turn electrons produced by fission directly into electricity?
This was the google AI answer.
Using AI to figure out how to turn electrons produced by fission directly into electricity involves a multidisciplinary approach that combines AI with nuclear physics, materials science, and engineering. Here’s a high-level overview of the steps and considerations:
1. Data Collection and Analysis:
* Gather data on fission reactions, nuclear fuels, and reactor designs.
* Collect information on materials suitable for capturing and converting electrons.
* Compile historical data on previous attempts and experiments related to fission-to-electricity conversion.
2. Model Development:
* Develop AI models for predicting fission reactions, reactor behavior, and electron production.
* Create models to simulate the behavior of materials under high radiation and heat conditions.
* Utilize machine learning algorithms for data analysis and pattern recognition.
3. Simulation and Optimization:
* Run simulations to understand how electrons are produced during fission reactions within various reactor designs.
* Optimize reactor configurations and fuel types to maximize electron production.
4. Materials Selection:
* Use AI to predict and identify materials that can efficiently capture and convert electrons into electricity.
* Consider materials that can withstand the extreme conditions within a nuclear reactor.
5. Control Systems:
* Implement AI-based control systems to manage reactor operations and electron capture processes in real-time.
* Use AI to monitor and adjust reactor parameters for optimal electron production and safety.
6. Safety and Reliability:
* Implement AI algorithms for safety monitoring and early detection of potential issues or anomalies.
* Ensure the reliability of the conversion process, as well as the long-term stability of materials used.
7. Experimental Validation:
* Conduct experiments in controlled environments to validate AI predictions and optimizations.
* Use AI to analyze experimental data and refine models accordingly.
8. Scaling and Integration:
* Apply AI to design scalable systems that can be integrated into existing or new nuclear reactor designs.
* Consider the integration of AI-based energy storage and grid management for efficient electricity distribution.
9. Regulatory Compliance:
* Collaborate with regulatory authorities to ensure compliance with safety and environmental standards.
* Use AI for predictive modeling and risk assessment to meet regulatory requirements.
10. Continuous Learning and Improvement:
* Employ AI for continuous monitoring, data analysis, and optimization to improve the efficiency of fission-to-electricity conversion.
This process involves a combination of fundamental scientific research, computational simulations, experimental validation, and iterative AI-driven optimizations. Collaboration between nuclear physicists, materials scientists, electrical engineers, and AI experts is essential to achieve success in this complex endeavor. Additionally, it’s crucial to address safety, environmental, and regulatory concerns throughout the development and deployment of such technology.
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There you are.
The blow up at OpenAi in the last two weeks was all about OpenAI LLM achieving what looked like the ability to take lessons learned in one area and apply them to other areas. As well, the AI achieved the ability to think about its own thinking process—meaning instead of people analyzing results and making improvements the AI could do that job itself. This seriously spooked ai researchers. They believed that they had achieved Artificial General Intelligence AGI. (it also showed that there is a pretty much straight line path to artificial super intelligence. That’s what really spooked the AI researchers
You can believe that whenever this capability is let go in the wild in a year or three—the fusion researchers will be all over it.
Fission researchers should be too. But in the meantime, there’s plenty of work fission researchers can do to use AI to upgrade their r&d methods.
to make the case for AI you might do some research online to figure out what percent of basic research, applied reasearch and product development uses AI. more importantly—how fast is that increase over time.
“Well, as long as we are doing miracles every day—why not convert electrons directly into electricity instead converting them to heat and then steam and then 19th century electricity generation.
how would you do that?
Well first tell everyone in the fission industry who cares to listen that they are dead monkey meat if they can’t figure out how to compete with fusion. just kidding.
the way you do that is to use AI to figure out how to tune or bend or coil or braid the fast electrons put out by the fissionable materials.”
Again, you display your total ignorance on the subject ...
Agree. I know nothing about fission. But you know nothing about AI or how rapidly its moving into basic and applied researh.
Show me your chops. Post some stats that show percentages of basic and applied research using AI.
That will tell you something.
Here you go.
10 AI Predictions for 2024 - Trends today - What I’m looking forward to next year!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWO9OJUeouE
This youtube directly discusses all the players in the space and why they have significantly decreased the timelines for fusion power to be feeding power to the grid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8suLtCyGGA
Here’s more info on the reason for the collapse of the timelines for the advent of commercial fusion power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aprVwwDA4kY
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