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Largest EV Charging Station In the World is Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators
Cowboy State Daily ^ | 10/03/23 | Kevin Killough

Posted on 10/03/2023 11:16:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging station in the world. But to provide that kind of power takes something solar can’t provide — diesel generators.

The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging station in the world.

In 2017, Tesla CEO said that all Superchargers in the automaker’s network were being converted to solar.

“Over time, almost all will disconnect from the electricity grid,” Musk posted on X, formally known as Twitter.

Superchargers charge vehicles up to the 80% sweet spot in as little as 20 minutes, but to provide that kind of power for nearly 100 bays takes something solar can’t provide — diesel generators.

Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the station was powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell station. Reporters at SF Gate tried to find out how much of the station's electricity was from the generators, but couldn’t get a response from Tesla.

The station isn’t connected to any dedicated solar farms, which means that absent the diesel generators, the station is powered by California’s grid. According to the U.S. Energy and Information Administration, in June 2023, natural gas supplied nearly 5,000 megawatt hours of electricity in California, whereas non-hydroelectric renewables supplied about 7,250 megawatt hours.

Another Case

Energy analyst and writer David Blackmon, author of the “Energy Transition Absurdities,” told Cowboy State Daily that the use of diesel-powered generators is not limited to the Harris Ranch station.

He used to shop at a Whole Foods in Houston. The company had installed a charging station in front of the store for its customers. “It was the best parking spot in the lot, and it crowded out a bunch of handicap spaces,” Blackmon said.

He said there were diesel generators behind the store and whenever someone was using the chargers, the generators would kick on.

Destabilized Grid

Just as these charging stations find they can’t run without some fossil fuel backup, the retirement of a coal-fired power plant in Kansas is being delayed to accommodate the energy demands of an electric vehicle battery factory that’s under construction.

Blackmon said that these stories illustrate well the lack of thought going into the demands that will be placed on the grid with increasing amounts of electric vehicle adoption.

As those demands pile on, U.S. energy policy pushes to remove coal, nuclear and natural gas from the grid.

Blackmon said he watched all summer as the Texas grid, which operates separately from the rest of the county, nearly collapsed with the incessant heat.

“We almost had blackouts on Aug. 24,” he said. State Sen. Cheri Steinmetz, R-Lingle, told Cowboy State Daily that despite claims that wind and solar alone can power the grid, they lack the reliability needed to satisfy energy demand. So, parts of the country, such as Texas, are facing shortages.

“Adding the load required for electric vehicles and the transportation network to support them would exacerbate the looming shortages we already face in the near future if energy policies are not reformed,” Steinmetz said.

No Way Out

Blackmon said that the footprint required to generate enough power to satisfy all energy needs with wind and solar is enormous. It’s not just the wind farms, solar farms and battery factories, there are also thousands of miles of transmission lines to connect consumers with the power wherever it happens to be generated at any given moment.

This calls into doubt Musk’s plan to power charging stations off of solar. “If that’s what he wants, then he only wants the chargers to work six to eight hours a day. If they’re purely powered by solar, there’s just no way out of that,” Blackmon said.

Musk has made many exciting promises that so far haven’t come to pass. Someone went to the trouble to make a website documenting his pledges and how many days have passed since they were made.

Musk has also been taken to task for his solar promises. Energy expert Alex Epstein ran a fact check on Musk’s claim that we could power the world with a small area of the Sahara Desert and “some batteries.”

Epstein calculated that enough battery storage to create a reliable grid would cost $590 trillion for the batteries alone. It doesn’t include the cost of all the transmission infrastructure. And the batteries would have to be replaced every decade.


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: california; chargingstations; diesel; dieselgenerators; dieselpower; dieselpowered; electric; ev; generators
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To: SeekAndFind

Tesla is not only selling cars but charging as well.

It’s like KIA controlling and selling gasoline


21 posted on 10/03/2023 11:46:28 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, they could run on 100% solar, IF:
1. They have a solar farm of sufficient size (roughly 50 acres).
2. They only operate during daytime.
3. They limit charging when the sunlight is limited

Well, if they CLAIM to be solar powered, is that not good enough?


22 posted on 10/03/2023 11:47:29 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: dfwgator

Pretty much.

Batteries are dirty to make, they are dirty to recycle. They often use heavy metals or rare earth metals and child labor or unsafe working conditions in third world nations to source the materials. Strip mining for lithium is the usual way it’s sourced.

Batteries have a horrible energy density, meaning you need a lot of volume and mass to store the same amount of power as conventional fuel, as much as 7 or 8 times!

Batteries resist being charged, meaning some of the efficiency of an electric motor is lost in the bigger picture because the battery is using energy in the charge process (why they get hot).

Batteries have a very finite cycle life, meaning you’re building cars that are disposable. The idea of running a car 20 years is not feasible with an EV.

Batteries don’t do well in extreme heat or cold.

Batteries take a long time to charge. A 800 mile drive now needs to factor in several long stops to charge those batteries. They are really only ideal for commuting.


The problem has been and remains the storage of power for electric vehicles.

It’s expensive and riddled with problems.

But someone slapped a green label on it, and we all know how many folks react when they hear “green.” Like Pavlov’s dog.


23 posted on 10/03/2023 11:51:25 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Gen.Blather

There is no conversion to EV’s

There is however conversion to Teslaas


24 posted on 10/03/2023 11:52:07 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Jamestown1630

You mean they don’t run on unicorn farts?


25 posted on 10/03/2023 11:53:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Superchargers charge vehicles up to the 80% sweet spot in as little as 20 minutes”

...a little tidbit that I didn’t know. Makes sense what they’re doing, but perhaps we should then derate the EVs if they plan on using a Supercharger - so one’s 300 mile range becomes 240 miles, and then goes down from there depending on weather and terrain.


26 posted on 10/03/2023 11:53:58 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

We’re talking EVs here. BS is allowed.


27 posted on 10/03/2023 11:54:14 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: bert

Ran across a guy on YouTube converting bricked Tesla’s to V8’s. Would not be surprised if, in twenty years, those will be the only Tesla’s still on the road.


28 posted on 10/03/2023 11:56:06 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Gen.Blather

Well, you might be right.


29 posted on 10/03/2023 11:57:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: dfwgator

Nor a magic box behind the socket on the wall.


30 posted on 10/03/2023 12:00:53 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SeekAndFind

You can’t make this stuff up!


31 posted on 10/03/2023 12:25:52 PM PDT by oil_dude
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To: SeekAndFind

Bahahahaha

And that sums up the libtard FRAUD about EVs


32 posted on 10/03/2023 12:32:23 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: SeekAndFind

Want to bet those diesels can refresh their energy source energy fasten then a Telsa?


33 posted on 10/03/2023 12:35:28 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: SeekAndFind

ROFL!!!

It would be better to burn the diesel in the vehicles themselves.


34 posted on 10/03/2023 12:37:23 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

Could enough cars equal to diesel pickup trucks carry these generators to be equivalent?


35 posted on 10/03/2023 1:18:46 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: NorthMountain

No, actually a generator is WAY more efficient. Especially if it’s close by.


36 posted on 10/03/2023 1:31:18 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

I said better.

Refueling “way” faster, range from a load of fuel is “way” greater, and environmental impact from the total system is “way” smaller.


37 posted on 10/03/2023 1:38:18 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they convert the entire network to solar, customers won’t be able to charge their cars at night. The law of unintended consequences raises its ugly head again? As a work around, they could shine big lights on the solar panels using those idled diesel generators for power.


38 posted on 10/03/2023 1:45:04 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Sequoyah101

I read that the new woke airforce is going to renewable fuel...problem is its less efficient.
So a woke bomber drops a couple of tons high explosive on the enemy...but feels Good as the atmosphere was not polluted.
However his support fighter was soon out maneuvered and shot down because the woke fuel generates only 70% of the thrust.


39 posted on 10/24/2023 11:09:19 PM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and curmudgeons.)
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To: SpokeshaveReturns

At lest the airforce will save money as g-suits no longer required


40 posted on 10/24/2023 11:14:26 PM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and curmudgeons.)
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