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The inevitable EV implosion
American Thinker ^ | 12 Sep, 2023 | Ron Ross

Posted on 09/12/2023 5:51:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The electric vehicle honeymoon is over. Don’t expect the marriage itself to last much longer either.

The mass conversion from internal combustion engine vehicles (ICEs) to electric vehicles was never more than a Democrat/environmentalist hallucination anyway. It was the most ill-conceived government policy objective in modern history.

The transition should have been a non-starter. It’s riddled with numerous deal killers. It’s like having a dozen fatal diseases all at the same time.

Any goal as massive as a total conversion from ICE vehicles to EVs requires careful planning and infrastructure preparation. It would necessitate a rapid doubling of electricity generation and grid expansion. In today’s world that’s impossible.

EV promoters could never deliver on their promises. Their grandiose assurances were nothing more than wishful thinking.

There was no market research. Hmm -- I wonder why. There were no feasibility studies. Hmm -- I wonder why. Did they actually believe everyone would tolerate spending hours to charge their vehicles rather than the minutes they were accustomed to?

Car dealers are resisting further deliveries of EVs because of swelling inventories. Avis and Hertz can’t even get people to rent EVs! Yet, manufacturers are ramping up production just as consumers are balking. Something will have to give, and soon. EV makers and their shareholders will tire of pouring money down a rathole.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: automotive; electricity; energy; ev; fubar; globalwarming; infrastructure; power
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To: Macoozie

“Folks in The Villages use modded Golf Carts (low-end EV’s) to get around.”

That is not an EV as discussed, so your comments are retarded since you cannot keep focus on the subject matter.


61 posted on 09/12/2023 10:25:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Blueflag

Interesting (and useful) anecdotal info - one quick question:

You said “I charged my car from 45% to 80% in 7 minutes . . .”, so I’m figuring that’s about a third of the energy storage available, which I’m guessing is about 100 to 125 miles worth of juice? Is that about reasonable? And if so, does that mean if you followed that pattern on a long trip you’d be recharging (roughly) ever couple of hours?

Now I know you can run the battery down below 45% (and recharge it above 85%), but if 45% to 80% is one’s ‘comfort zone’, is what I’ve described above the kind of recharging pattern one could expect?


62 posted on 09/12/2023 10:44:53 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Lou L
OK...what if each EV came with a mini windmill mounted on its roof? Maybe a mini windmill with solar panels for blades? Wouldn’t that eliminate the need for frequent re-charging?

The EPA may mandate it since it would just run forever.

63 posted on 09/12/2023 11:31:39 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Stosh

Depends on where you are, familiarity with area, am I in a rush/deadline.

For instance, my neighbor and my brother commonly run the charge down to 15-20% if they are local, because they can charge at home.

It really comes down to personal comfort levels with a given scenario.

I will say every EV owner I know charges to recommended full every night at home. My across the street retired neighbor charges every day so he can charge off his solar system for ‘free.’

Net: EV charging frequency is a combo of what’s your scenario and what’s your anxiety. (Note well anxiety is like the amber light coming on the dash in your ICE vehicle.)


64 posted on 09/12/2023 1:24:01 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: MtnClimber

The infrastructure is centered around cities and major highways, especially interstates. That’s great until you have to get off of the major highways and drive through a charger dead zone. If I had to drive a Tesla from where I am right now to where one of my kids goes to college with a charge similar to how much gas I have in my tank, I would be in trouble because there are no chargers for about 100 miles. The only option would be to take a lengthy detour to find a place to plug in, and that is still about 70 miles to the nearest charger. There are gas stations all over the same routes, so the choice is clear.


65 posted on 09/12/2023 1:24:54 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: Ancesthntr

I trade...but rarely short.


66 posted on 09/12/2023 1:27:10 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Yo-Yo

Nothing says “I’m virtue signalling flamming libtard” like solar panels on the rooftop and a EV or two in the garage.


67 posted on 09/12/2023 1:30:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Well the sissies are all taking Lithium anyway.


68 posted on 09/12/2023 1:34:48 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: CodeToad

I want my 1950 Ford Falcon back. Stick shift so hard to steal. 29 miles per gallon. Easy to fix anything.


69 posted on 09/12/2023 2:09:30 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: Red Badger

Not even second place in the contest.
Consider:
War on Poverty
Obamacare
Cash for Clunkers (not sure that qualifies as policy, though)


70 posted on 09/12/2023 2:43:11 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: milagro
Winter is coming and that means the climate will CHANGE.

Winter is not a climatic change. Winter is a seasonal change.

I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that important distinction.

71 posted on 09/12/2023 2:47:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: woodbutcher1963
It costs $130K.
He had the electrician from the company he owns ...

ROFL!!!

72 posted on 09/12/2023 2:49:46 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Your sarcasm detector needs to have its batteries recharged.


73 posted on 09/12/2023 2:50:55 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: oldasrocks

I think you mean 1960


74 posted on 09/12/2023 3:49:41 PM PDT by mt tom ( )
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To: redangus
If your only choice is an EV, no matter how crappy it is you’ll buy one. That’s the goal.

That is really not the goal.

The government is destroying our infrastructure, especially the power grid, and is intent on forcing everyone they don't kill into the 15 minute cities. The only people allowed any form of transportation will be the uber-wealthy and politicians. They will have ICE vehicles since the actual technology for reliable EVs is 50 to 100 years away, and by then they will have decimated mankind so bad there will be no technology left.

75 posted on 09/12/2023 3:51:13 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: oldasrocks

Probably 1960. Exactly what my grandfather had. Light blue.


76 posted on 09/12/2023 4:16:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: oldasrocks

I bet with no regulations to worry about that car companies can design a great engine for trucks and cars that gets 30mpg and 350hp.


77 posted on 09/12/2023 4:31:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Red Badger

Ill-conceived for all but the politicians who made millions off the scam. Insider trading. Kickbacks. It’s the deals behind the deal.


78 posted on 09/12/2023 4:35:13 PM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.." )
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To: MtnClimber

I think I’ll wait until Dewalt
produces their version of an
EV.


79 posted on 09/13/2023 3:43:41 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Honest Nigerian

Cash for Clunkers nearly destroyed the used car market...............


80 posted on 09/13/2023 5:37:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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