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Weekly Garden Thread - September 2-8, 2023 [I Scream, You Scream We All Scream for...Salsa? Edition]
September 2, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 09/02/2023 5:31:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; september; ssalsa
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Does anyone know what this flower/plant is? It’s apparently in California:

https://img.peapix.com/393f5299ba964cb087f532ba1c645948_UHD.jpg?attachment&modal


101 posted on 09/05/2023 12:00:07 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Augie

Mending fence lines never seems to end! Our last ‘fencing disaster’ resulted in the neighbors beef cows and their Spring babies strolling through my garden earlier this year. They didn’t hurt anything, and the owner got them rounded up quick after I called him, but it took a few seconds for my brain to register what my eyes were seeing: “Hey! Those cows should probably NOT be in my garden!”

Nice peppers! I’m just starting on my apple crops, too. It’s going to be a lot, but I am going to make apple sauce, apple butter, apple jam, freeze a bunch of pies for later baking, and also juice for canning.

It’s taken me almost seven years, but I’m getting more and more food out of our land/garden than ever before. And the guy who pays the bills around here is MORE thank impressed. It helps to keep ‘The Overlord’ happy. ;)

It’s a lot of work, but it’s a great feeling when the pantry & freezers are FULL come Winter.


102 posted on 09/05/2023 12:39:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Jamestown1630; Bon of Babble

Bon? Do you know what the flower/flowering shrub is in Post 101?


103 posted on 09/05/2023 3:47:54 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Augie
Augie. Straight west of you on the KS/MO border, give or take a couple of miles either way. I-70 is about 10 miles to the north. (Takes a big bend over the top of KC.)

You have a line of T-storms with hail core approaching Sedalia. You can enjoy dinners and maybe look for rain tonight!

https://radar.weather.gov/station/keax/standard

104 posted on 09/05/2023 5:12:50 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Jamestown1630; Bon of Babble; Diana in Wisconsin
Tin Eye found a picture which indicated that the Hummingbird is an Allen's Hummingbird. Very restricted range in coastal California. (D....Good call referring to Bon of Babble!)

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Allens_Hummingbird/maps-range#

Habitat: Breeds in canyons, coastal shrub, and chaparral; winters along forest edges and in scrub.

https://celebrateurbanbirds.org/learn/birds/hummingbird/allens-hummingbird/

In early spring, a narrow strip of scrub and chaparral along the Pacific Coast starts buzzing with the sights and sounds of the coppery and green Allen's Hummingbird. Males flash their brilliant reddish orange throat and put on an elaborate show for the females, swinging in pendulous arcs before climbing high into the sky and diving back down with a sharp squeal made by their tails. These early migrants mostly spend the winter in Mexico, but some stay in southern California year-round.

105 posted on 09/05/2023 5:34:55 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission; MayflowerMadam

Mayflower Madam wants to know the flower/flowering shrub the Hummer is sitting on.


106 posted on 09/05/2023 5:53:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Augie; Pete from Shawnee Mission
I'm down near the bottom right where it says Mark Twain National Forest. I'm not technically in the forest but some of the 400 acre property across the road from me is. I'm guessing Pete's somewhere on the left edge of this map/pic.

We have some terrain here. I'm lucky to have a few acres of gentle S/SE slope and good, mostly rock free soil. Most small pieces of raw land are junk around here. Up around I-70 and above is actual MO farm land. They grow cattle down here.


107 posted on 09/05/2023 6:52:49 PM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Did I ask about that? I don’t remember.

Although there are many hummingbirds around the house we just bought, and I would like to know what plants and flowers they like. We did the sugar water thing for a couple weeks but the feeders get pretty gross, and are bug collectors.

Hanging plants sound like a good idea.


108 posted on 09/05/2023 6:54:04 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Pollard; Augie

They grow grapes and make wine in Herrman and St James, and make engineers in Rolla!


109 posted on 09/05/2023 7:35:40 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Jamestown1630; MayflowerMadam; Bon of Babble; Diana in Wisconsin
Well, since we have not heard from Bon, Could it be an introduced planting of something like heather? (Not Mexican heather sold in Garden centers.)

https://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/chaparral.php

https://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/prince_of_wales_heather.php (From South Africa)

https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/89537/erica-carnea-prince-of-wales/details

This is obviously growing in a woodland enviornment and not in Chapparal! It seems a bit small but then so are hummingbirds.

110 posted on 09/05/2023 8:10:50 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Your picture does look like it! I never knew that any kind of heather looked like that.

Thank you!


111 posted on 09/05/2023 9:03:30 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: FRiends

*PING* to garden-related thread:

‘Pick Tomatoes At Color Break [no taste benefit to fully ripening on the vine]’

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4180354/posts?page=1


112 posted on 09/06/2023 5:52:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks! I always pick at color break. Like the article says, avoids bugs and animals.


113 posted on 09/06/2023 6:28:33 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: MayflowerMadam
M.M.

https://www.gardendesign.com/flowers/hummingbirds.html

In looking at these I wonder about the something like the Flowering Quince, which might be too early for hummingbirds? Beware of the Trumpet vine and Japanese Honeysuckle! Both are pretty invasive.

Good Growing!

114 posted on 09/06/2023 6:39:58 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks so much!! (Honeysuckle sounds wonderful!)


115 posted on 09/06/2023 6:47:56 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

The storms fizzled out before they got to CoMO.

We didn’t even get a sprinkle.


116 posted on 09/06/2023 6:56:25 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

QUESTION: If you pick cherry tomatoes (Sweet 100s in particular) when still partially green, but with some ‘blush’ of color, will they ripen up? If the Celebrities have any color, they will ripen up on the countertop.

Finally made it to the tomato patch today .... in at 10:15 & the sweat is literally dripping off. I cleaned the patch - still need to pull out the main stalks, but all the branches are cut off. There were some ripe tomatoes, but I also picked any green ones larger than a ping pong ball and I plan on using them for Green Tomato Chutney.

I still have not talked to my brother about his turkey deep fryer stand to possibly use for heating my large canning pot - boy, would that speed things up. Between the jalapeno pepper jelly, the fig jelly, blackberry merlot jelly & now the tomato chutney, I will be canning for at least 2 days, longer if I have to use the stove for heating the pot. The upside is it’s going to be 100 outside the next 3 days, so being inside is a ‘good’ thing.

The spaghetti squash - some of the vines are still growing & blooming & I have some small squash on. I am torn between calling it quits, or letting it go. The weeds have gotten in that raised bed & the squash vines were so thick, I didn’t wade in & pull them, so a major clean out is appealing.

One jalapeno plant is pretty much gone - totally wilted. That one is getting pulled - has some good peppers on it. I may freeze some of them for my brother - already have about 20 in a bag for him. I am “poppered” out & have enough for 30 jars of jelly, so I’m ‘done’ on the jalapenos, for the most part. I may freeze a few for myself for this winter, but freezer space will be at a premium before long - half a hog coming early next month.

Last but not least ... still in LOVE with my herbs. When the borage bit the dust (bloomed out) & I pulled it, the African Blue Basil took off! I cannot believe how big it’s gotten and the blooms are really attracting pollinators. I am going to have to get another one for next year. Sadly, both of the lavender plants in that bed died ... they were larger when I bought them & not accustomed to being outside in extreme heat. One was a Super Blue & that one dying really ‘hurt’. The upside is that the 3 lavender plants, two new & one 2-year old Super Blue on the side of the porch, are doing just great. I plan on taking cuttings from the Super Blue to see if I can root them - that is how to propagate based on some recent reading. Much smaller plants that are acclimated early should do much better. Everything else is doing well - the chamomile is dying, but it’s a perennial & may have self-seeded. Between the chamomile & the borage, I’m curious what will come up next spring!


117 posted on 09/06/2023 7:29:42 AM PDT by Qiviut (To the living, we owe respect. To the dead, we owe the truth (Voltaire) $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Augie
Bummer. It did not rain here. It started in Jackson County MO, other side of KC.

I did go look at Street view roads near Exit 133. Close to a larger city but you live out in a nice country area!

118 posted on 09/06/2023 9:04:02 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 71 Sunny. )
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To: Qiviut

Qiviut; you are rather busy this week! If you get that broiler you could do your water bath canning outside!

I have a bunch of Sweet 100 tomatoes that I think I will use along with some chili peppers for Chili Sauce. They do ripen if you wait.

I am still pulling other tomatoes off the vines. I have a large number of Burpee’s Long Keeper ripening. I went to the local Grocery store and tried to get some of the cardboard trays from empty apple crates to use to keep them. They were out but said to come back later in the week.

I have a ton of basil that I need to top. (I have all the basil flower vinegar that I need at this point!) Wife loves Lavender! I put it along the edge of a rock boarder so maybe it helps with the heat?

Have a good day!


119 posted on 09/06/2023 9:13:34 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 73 Sunny. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Glad to know the cherry tomatoes will turn!

In for the day - way too hot outside. It was 98 yesterday & we’ll be pushing 100 the rest of the week!


120 posted on 09/06/2023 10:46:17 AM PDT by Qiviut (To the living, we owe respect. To the dead, we owe the truth (Voltaire) $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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