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NASA discovers sunspot so big it can be seen from Mars that could release solar storms that knock out Earth's power grids next WEEK
Daily Mail ^ | 8/22/23 | Stacey Liberatore

Posted on 08/22/2023 9:09:36 PM PDT by week 71

Experts have warned that the dark region, which is cooler than the surrounding area, could release energetic explosions capable of knocking out our planet's power grids.

The exact measurements of the sunspot are unknown, but NASA's Perseverance rover snapped images of the spot as it sits more than 152 million miles from the sun.

The rover observed the sunspot on August 17 through August 20 while exploring the Jezero Crater on the Red Planet.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; aurora; carringtonevent; catastrophism; climatechange; cme; coronalmassejection; dooom; globalwarming; mars; science; sida; sunspot; sunspotbaby; sunspots
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To: Mark17

I can’t believe it; but I learned Morse in 1958 for Boy Scouts. I remember about half of it.


41 posted on 08/23/2023 1:06:22 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: gundog

CMEs won’t damage a ham radio if it’s unplugged and isolated from any long wave antenna.

*IF* a really big CME was forecast to hit the earth, we’d have plenty of time to ‘unplug’ a number of vulnerable assets. That could include shutting down the electric grid and waiting it out.


42 posted on 08/23/2023 1:32:54 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Mark17

They might love the idea of it. The reality of it would be something else entirely.


43 posted on 08/23/2023 2:21:37 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Migraine
I can’t believe it; but I learned Morse in 1958 for Boy Scouts. I remember about half of it.

I learned Morse code by listening to a cassette tape. The first thing I did, was simply listen to code at 13 WPM, just to see what it sounded like. It sounded like total gibberish to me, and I said I couldn’t possibly learn Morse code. My friends told me, yes I can, just keep at it. I did and in about 8 weeks, I could copy about 7 WPM, enough to get my novice ticket. I only made about 8 or 10 contacts, and I just quit, thinking I won’t get back on the air, till I could do it on voice. By then I was just listening to W1AW code practice sessions, till I got up to about 16 WPM. Then I got my general class license. I never used Morse code again.
I doubt anyone knows that W1AW, was the call sign of the first ham radio operator in the US, Hiram Percy Maxim. Many might remember his father, Hiram Stevens Maxim. Does the Maxim machine gun ring a bell? He invented it.

44 posted on 08/23/2023 2:23:35 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: gundog; Blueflag
They might love the idea of it. The reality of it would be something else entirely.

I would just unplug my stuff, like I do now, in a bad thunderstorm.

45 posted on 08/23/2023 2:28:37 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Blueflag

How long do you want to go with the grid down, and no communications? And essentially no legal commerce? No emergency services. And post-EMP, dead vehicles everywhere.


46 posted on 08/23/2023 2:38:06 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

Hang on. *IF* a truly Hugh and series CME were headed to earth, the power grid can be protected and it’ll be “fine” in time. Yes there will be damaged components, but it won’t be like a nuclear HEMP.

Solar pulses are not like high altitude nuclear bursts.

Dont believe me- read Jon Hollerman’s work at griddownconsulting.com


47 posted on 08/23/2023 2:50:02 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Blueflag

I worry more about people’s reactions to the event. Do you announce that the grid is going down in X hours...don’t go fill your gas tanks all at once...don’t go panic buying at the stores? Don’t rush the banks and ATMs to have cash on hand? Because whatever you tell people not to do, they’re gonna do. Personally, I’d probably fill whatever I could with water.


48 posted on 08/23/2023 2:56:15 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: metmom

I think it was in the ‘90 s when there were so many large sunspots, I could see them with the naked eye with the right fog or high cloud conditions. No big deal.


49 posted on 08/23/2023 3:03:54 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Peter ODonnell
I have no doubt that there is a large sun spot on the sun. That's what it does. I suppose the article said something like “the largest one seen in 11 years!” It appears that this cycle while on the low side, may end up being higher than predicted.

Sort of like predictions of earthquakes. One of these days it will happen where I live (Seattle). Good to be prepared, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

To a degree I'm prepared if the power goes out. But not if it takes 5 years to repair the grid. Hmm. My neighbor is thinking about getting rid of his old truck. It has a carburetor, but I suppose it still has enough electronics on it that it won't run after a huge solar flare.

50 posted on 08/23/2023 3:15:19 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve
You know what REALLY bothers me about this article? Why isn't the rover focusing on the Jezero Crater like it's supposed to!?

As it already become sentient, and ADHD as well!?

51 posted on 08/23/2023 3:18:35 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Mark17

Got my Advanced in 1976, Extra in Dec 1985 and my GROL Commercial in 2000.

Operated a Navy/Marine Corp MARS station out of my home and car from 1976-1995.

Note: licensing is much easier today. No code required for most things. The exams are local now, not driving long distances to set before a FCC examiner.

For a number of years I did not operate much (was caring for many old or ill family members), but a few years back we put together a very good local club. There are a lot of changes, but the technical hams are interesting to be around again. Lots of projects.


52 posted on 08/23/2023 3:20:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: week 71

Be sure to wear a mask.


53 posted on 08/23/2023 3:39:36 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah ... if one of these ever hits us again like it did in the 1840s, it will be ugly.


54 posted on 08/23/2023 3:45:02 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: gundog

You’re exactly right about people’s reactions.

Just look at S California last week and the ‘warnings’ there.

Like a lot of folks here on FR, we’re pretty well prepared to handle an extended grid down event.

IF you are interested I strongly suggest you read Survival Theory and Survival Theory 2 by Jon Hollerman. Survival Theory 2 goes deep into human behavior.

What you are touching on is a huge topic, worth far more than I can post about.

I can only strongly urge you to learn and prepare for any number of possible events- some more than others.


55 posted on 08/23/2023 4:21:28 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: 21twelve

With a solar flare, aka CME, you’ll have warnings and lead time.

It’s easy to prep a vehicle to survive a solar flare (unlike a nuke EMP) because the ‘pulses’ are quite different.

With foreknowledge of a CME, do the following:
1. Have your tank full and have extra gas in cans if your living arrangements permit it.
2. If your vehicle is parked in a garage with an electric door or gate, open it now and leave it open, or park it outside. Garage doors can be quite difficult/heavy to open.
3. Disconnect both battery terminals.
4. Find your owners manual and the page with the fuse box layout. Print it out if it’s online only.
5. Open the fuse box and remove all the fuses. Put them in a bag in the center console with the fuse box layout page.
6. Leave the car unlocked - no issues with the fancy new locks nowadays.
7. For extra protection, likely not necessary, open your key fob and remove that little battery. Put both in a baggie and put it where you know you’ll remember it ;-)
8. If you have a mast antenna for the radio, wouldn’t hurt to unscrew it and put it on the front seat.
9. Lastly, for the fully anal retentitive, ground the vehicle to the dirt with a bare wire wrapped around a big nail or bolt, (put that in the dirt) and attach the other end to a bare metal part of the car. This will provide a path to dissipate induced current.

A big CME can last for hours or days. Don’t put it all back together for a while.

Tune in next week for how to protect portable radios 😉


56 posted on 08/23/2023 4:40:08 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Jeff Chandler
This sun spot is caused by anthropogenic climate change, I’m sure.

We'll be fine. I purchased extra carbon offsets from algore yesterday.

57 posted on 08/23/2023 4:46:04 AM PDT by NautiNurse (🇺🇸 Selling out the U.S.A.: The Briben Brand™)
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To: Blueflag

Thank you for the instructions. Now I don’t need to get 80 boxes of Reynolds Wrap for the cars!


58 posted on 08/23/2023 4:48:57 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 4Liberty

Can’t be Christie. A sunspot is bright.


59 posted on 08/23/2023 4:49:44 AM PDT by MortMan (Lawfare puts the label on the banana republic.)
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To: week 71

Well, fortunately we have all the right people and so many ‘experts’ in DC to get us through another crisis safely! (sarcasm)


60 posted on 08/23/2023 5:11:19 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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