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Vanity: What is the one thing that will keep Trump or the GOP from regaining POTUS? Abortion.
me | 08/09/2023

Posted on 08/09/2023 1:32:14 PM PDT by devane617

It is becoming obvious to 'me' that abortion is the one thing that is making elections these days. I think this wedge issue may in fact be the one issue that will keep Trump or the GOP nominee out of office.

Is there enough support on the right to bend one the issue?


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To: 1Old Pro

I think we have seen some Divergence of opinions here on Free Republic.

Some Freepers say we should not push for abortion restrictions because it will hurt Republicans politically.

Other Freepers say, abortion is wrong, abortion is murder, and they don’t care about the political implications of any of this.


21 posted on 08/09/2023 1:43:06 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: devane617

Abortion is at the States.

That is reasonable, from a Federal level. We could do a Constitutional Amendment, but that is very long range.


22 posted on 08/09/2023 1:43:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: devane617

why dont you save everybody the time and just posts you are for abortion. calling a table discussion hinting that its “The Best Way” to get the Right back in the big chair makes you appear to be a shallow, one issue voter.

most people, unless they are trying to suck up to their partners, dont care about abortion because 80% of normal people dont need them!!


23 posted on 08/09/2023 1:43:31 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: devane617

I think it will be one of the things.

It is possible to support overturning Roe AND trusting the states will promote the will of their citizens.

But there are many who will die on this hill. And they will take the rest of the party with it.

Trump alone would motivate the Dems to action. Local debates on abortion will motivate more.


24 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: bort

The issue is an actual cultural divide. It is a firm of genocide.

Two democrats abort a baby for every single independent or republican.

The way to frame thus issue is simple. Democrats have aborted 58 million potential legal voters. Republicans about 22 million.

Every abortion reduces the number of Americans by birth.

Had the democrats NOT PROMOTED Abortion they would have won every single presidential election since Ronald Reagan!

A smart campaign commercial would be to point out that since 1972 every election has potentially cost both parties seats. This is a reverse attack on abortion designed to challenge people on the affect abortion has on politics.


25 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:13 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: patriot torch

They aren’t the major issues mobilizing the base for the Democrats. Right now Joe Biden has one issue that’s working for him and that’s abortion.


26 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:18 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: devane617

Trump is the one thing that will prevent Trump from getting back into office.


27 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:32 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: patriot torch

Quite frankly, Satan has so thoroughly invaded the minds of people in this country that I doubt we will ever return to God’s standards.

Should candidates still stand firm on a pro-life stance? Absolutely.


28 posted on 08/09/2023 1:44:58 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Evil won...again.)
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To: devane617

So every two years, we have an election about abortion?


29 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:21 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: devane617

Put abortion on the middle burner for the time being, and stress keeping the First Amendment pure. First things first.

If “they” succeed in squelching the Gospel message — and that is occurring every day — there’s a lower chance people’s hearts will be changed. Abortion (for or against) is a heart thing.


30 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:21 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Vermont Lt
Trump alone would motivate the Dems to action. Local debates on abortion will motivate more.

No Trump. Compromise on abortion.

31 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: devane617
Rush repeatedly and vehemently disagreed with the idea of Republicans dropping a pro-life stance or just being quiet about it under the guise that doing so would help win elections.

IMHO what the GOP should always do is put it back on the Dims. Make the Dims state why they support "abortion" even after birth. The GOP should articulate the brutal steps of a partial-birth abortion and make the Dims state why they support a procedure that involves having to hold the baby's arms and legs still and puncture his skull to literally suck his brains out. The GOP should ask the Dims if it would be okay to do those kind of things to a puppy dog --- if not then why is it okay to do it to a baby? The GOP should state over and over and over that at one time the Dims said blacks too were less than human beings, just property, and if history shows the Dims were wrong about that then the Dims are wrong about a baby even with arms and legs already developed being "just a clump of cells".

That way the pro-life position isn't won over most people is because it's never described in detail for the gruesome barbaric thing that it really is.

32 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:22 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: No name given

There’s a reason why the Founding Fathers prevented them from voting. Women’s suffrage was the beginning of the end of the Republic.


33 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:24 PM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: MinorityRepublican

I have stated my position.


34 posted on 08/09/2023 1:45:57 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Compromising with radical morons is what has DESTROYED this country.

Go back to Dem Underground.


35 posted on 08/09/2023 1:46:08 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: nikos1121

That is the key. No federal office seeker should make abortion an issue, since it s now officially a state issue. Let each state decide. Remember, we lost the red wave in 2022 not because of Dobbs but because traitor Graham set everyone’s hair on fire with his demonic move to “pass a national ban on abortion.” Until he said that, the issue had died down enough that it was not a major voting issue for Congress.


36 posted on 08/09/2023 1:46:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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Trump’s recently stated position is effectively “Safe, Legal, & Rare” — rape, mother’s life, etc

The Rats got out the young female vote in Kansas. They’ll repeat that and ballot harvesting in 2024.


37 posted on 08/09/2023 1:47:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: devane617

Follow God or follow the world. He decides on the blessings for obedience, the world doesn’t.


38 posted on 08/09/2023 1:48:03 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: devane617

H O G W A S H


39 posted on 08/09/2023 1:48:09 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: hoagy62

Speaking of Satan ...

Our church has VBS two weeks ago. One six-year-old boy asked his teacher, “Does God love Satan?” SIX YEARS OLD, and a budding theologian.


40 posted on 08/09/2023 1:48:15 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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