Attributed to P.T. Barnum, but probably earlier:
Posted on 08/04/2023 6:15:06 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
Advocates for electric vehicles have once again been hit with a rather inconvenient fact.
With gas prices surging, the Biden administration has been relentlessly urging Americans to switch to electric vehicles as an alternative, with the supposed added benefit of being able to stop climate change.
The idea behind this push seems to be that it is cheaper to charge an electric vehicle than it is to fuel a car in the current economy. Thus, Americans who use EVs can rest assured that they do not have to worry about the price of gas.
However, a new report is bringing all of that into question, suggesting that it may in fact be more expensive to charge an electric vehicle.
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Attributed to P.T. Barnum, but probably earlier:
But Kommie Harris said we all needed to drive EVs.
But it gets Dems power cheaply.
Wait until the E charging stations need to be “Juiced” by Diesel generators on site.
I’m retired & drive very little. Sometimes only 4 miles per week round trip for groceries. So my tank full of gas lasts me a long time.
How much charge will the average EV battery lose in one week sitting in my enclosed garage?
This time of year, the garage gets quite warm, as it is not air-conditioned. And quite cold in the winter.
Except this isn’t even close to true.
Dollar for dollar, I go just less than four times as far on my
EV dollar vs my ICE dollar.
I fill up my EV for five bucks and go over 95 miles.
Here in Los Angeles, the cheapest stations are charging
$5.00 for a gallon of unleaded regular.
Even in my hybrid, I can only go about 25 miles on that.
I should explain that when I said fill up, I only fill up to
80%. That’s why the 95 mile figure was listed. If I fill
to 100%, I can go 120 miles. The car has taken care of 99%
of my travel needs over the last 21 months.
I have a 2.4 gallon gas tank that I get 42.5 mpg on. It
runs a generator that holds the battery charge steady.
I can refill that a few times and go over 500 miles on a
charge and gas. I only use it on long trips. I only taken
one of those in the last 21 months.
Based on the way unsold EVs are piling up everywhere, I do think you are right!
Not mentioned here is the price of electricity is increasing rapidly with the increased usage of unreliable, expensive wind & solar power. Too, as power consumption maybe doubles with the need to charge all these EVs, the electrical infrastructure will need expensive upgrades to handle the increased load, & that cost will be paid with even higher electric rates for consumers.
Yeah, well... California just socialized electricity.
They gave the utilities $2.1B to pay electric bills for the poor, and enacted legislation that, once it’s rubber-stamped by the CPUC, will increase the basic grid connection fee from $12 to $51, while still billing usage, but at $0.21/kWh instead of $0.35271 (current Tier 1 rate, Tier 2 and Time Of Use rates differ).
The dirty, mathematically discoverable secret is that you’ve gotta use more than 290kWh in a month before the new rate is a net gain. That much usage or less, and you’re a net loser.
“My question is what is it going to do toe electricity rates. I might not own an EV but will I be paying more for heating, air conditioning, and just living because electricity rates will be going up?”
My wife and I are senior citizens in California and use PG&E as our electricity provider.
Until this year they had a great plan for senior citizens:
It was simple and easy to use. We planned our daily big use to be done by noon when our rates went up. Then, after 6pm, we could use our oven and other heavy duty electricity using appliances. We did big projects over the lower cost weekends.
That stopped on 1 Jan this year with basically no economical time of use being the best.
Our PG&E bills are about 40% more than last year.
An engineer/younger relative says the higher rates are there due to the high demand at night for EVs being recharged for the next day.
Ask me that again without presuming I know the context.
Sitting in your garage could reduce its charge quickly in the coincident fire.
They don’t care - they’re “saving” the erf!
Hybrids & EVs are different breeds. Hybrids make some sense. EVs, not so much.
Yes, yes and yuck, yuck.
That sort of humor gives us no info re the battery discharge rate of a parked EV.
But thanks, anyway.
I know there are issues with EVs, batteries and other...
I look back on the last ten years as growing pains. They
are moving to sodium ion batteries and there will be others
that will avoid some of the bad things.
EVs will come out cleaner and make more sense over time.
My EV gets nearly four times the mileage on the same amount
of money even my ICE hybrid does. It really does make sense.
I don’t think government incentives should be extended.
The cars should stand on their own, or not.
If they fail, so be it. If they can gain a nitch market
and they make economic sense for folks, they’ll survive.
If not, they shouldn’t.
And the cost will get a lot higher if the Biden gang calls the shots.
4 times, eh?...That’s um...impressive.
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