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Biden now targeting home water heaters for more government rules as crackdown on home appliances continues
Daily Mail ^ | 7/23/23 | James Gordon

Posted on 07/23/2023 2:32:37 AM PDT by Libloather

The U.S. Department of Energy is now turning its attention to household water heaters as the Biden administration continues to target everyday home appliances for further regulations.

The administration, led by Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm, proposed new standards for water heaters last week. The standards on residential water heater efficiency, which are required by Congress, have not been updated in 13 years.

Officials say the new regulations to impose energy efficiency standards would save consumers $11.4 billion on energy and water bills annually. The regulations - which would take effect in 2029 - would require electric water heaters to use heat pumps to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

Water heaters account of 13 percent of all Americans' annual residential energy use and utility costs. The new pumps are twice as efficient as the older models.

However, critics point to the move as the latest in Biden's 'war' on appliances that has seen the administration target machines ranging from air conditioners to gas stoves in homes.

There is no word on whether Americans will have to immediately replace their water heaters, but the rules don't go into effect for five years. The last time the rules were updated, they had the backing of the largest manufacturers.

Storage tank heaters typically cost between $500 to $800 and are often replaced over the life of the home.

The standards are expected to reduce more than 500 million metric tones of carbon dioxide emissions over 30 years.

The new regulations might initially make water heaters more expensive, but consumers should recoup costs over time, Johanna Neumann, a senior director at the nonprofit Environment America Research and Policy Center, told the Washington Post.

'Appliance standards are an unsung hero in our work to address climate change and transition to wiser energy use,'...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: appliances; government; heaters; water; waterheaters
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To: Libloather

Explain to me how my electric water heater produces carbon emissions.

If you’re talking about the power plant that produces that power then take that same calculation to charge an electric vehicle.


21 posted on 07/23/2023 4:23:24 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Libloather

The only way to fix this problem and hundreds like it is to drastically reduce the budget, say 25% for starters. We are on our way to hit $40 trillion before the decade is out and the worthless do-nothing GOPe will help the dems get us there by aiding and abetting every dime to get there exactly like they have the past century.


22 posted on 07/23/2023 4:31:50 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Libloather

Hey BiteMe. How about “No!”


23 posted on 07/23/2023 4:37:05 AM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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To: Libloather

They will put a computer chip in your water heater, it will cost 2 grand and you will have to replace it every 5 years. It is another green tax that won’t accomplish anything but just further spread the insidious disease of Mental Greentardation.


24 posted on 07/23/2023 4:42:22 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: Libloather
The standards are expected to reduce more than 500 million metric tones of carbon dioxide emissions over 30 years.

That is a number in a vacuum. It should be measured in "Chinas", as in compare the number to the amount of emissions China belches each year.

So is this savings equal to:

1.0 Chinas?

0.1 Chinas?

10.0 Chinas?

How much does the new reg really save?

25 posted on 07/23/2023 4:42:28 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: Libloather

How does a different water heater save on water bills? I’m so confused. I hope the central planners can set me straight. (or is central planning a stupid way to run a country).


26 posted on 07/23/2023 5:02:14 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what accou"""nt is he?)
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To: Libloather

Far easier and cheaper just to get rid of the federal government. Nothing in the constitution calls for an EPA or the authority to regulate such things, and, no, the commerce clause doesn’t do that.


27 posted on 07/23/2023 5:06:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Libloather

The government thugs have ruined washing machines


28 posted on 07/23/2023 5:24:35 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: Libloather

I’m old. I can’t wait around until the alleged savings kick in. I guess I’ll just take my cold shower, eat my bugs and shut the hell up.


29 posted on 07/23/2023 5:27:26 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: Libloather
The last time the rules were updated, they had the backing of the largest manufacturers.

Of course they did. Those manufacturers were looking forward to their smaller competitors going out of business.

30 posted on 07/23/2023 5:33:44 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Libloather

The last time that water heaters were regulated, the foam insulation added made the diameter increase. The increased diameter required larger boxes and more cubic feet so fewer heaters could be loaded on a truck.

More truck loads more fuel less enviro effectiveness


31 posted on 07/23/2023 5:37:47 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Libloather

My Florida house has hurricane-proof concrete walls. I can’t easily pump off cold from a water heater.

My laundry room has a sink next to the water heater. The plumbing for the sink is run through concrete. Making space isn’t going to be easy or cheap.

I live in a single person low-income household. I use very little hot water.


32 posted on 07/23/2023 5:41:49 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Russ
Otherwise, these rules would be revoked by future Republican governments.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! good one.

You mean like incandescent light bulbs, low flush toilets, all the CARB regulations, etc etc.

Take a look at which party founded the EPA....

33 posted on 07/23/2023 5:44:25 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yup they have made washing machines that don’t clean the clothes and dishwashers that you hope for the best.


34 posted on 07/23/2023 5:44:56 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Libloather

To save energy I should be legally allowed to lower the temperature on my water heater to about 100 degrees.

Heating water to 120 degrees instead of the 100 degrees my body can tolerate does not sterilize water, it only wastes energy.


35 posted on 07/23/2023 5:45:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Libloather

For the price of a 5 cent bullet and a two cent bullet.
Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan respectively saved us a lot of grief.
Too bad Clinton and Obama were so much better protected.
They have done more to destroy America than any Nuke ever could.


36 posted on 07/23/2023 5:45:54 AM PDT by rellic
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To: Libloather

“Officials say the new regulations to impose energy efficiency standards would save consumers $11.4 billion on energy and water bills annually.”

11.4! Not a paltry 11.3, mind you, but 11.4!! And this is said by Officials!


37 posted on 07/23/2023 5:47:10 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

A d then FDR threatened the Court with being packed a d SCOTUS responded 9-0 in Wickard v Filburn giving the feds inmilmited power to use the interstate commerce clause to limit and destroy individual Liberty.


38 posted on 07/23/2023 5:49:35 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: bert

“diameter”

The height also increased on the replacement available to just above the existing wall outlet plumbing stubs my house has.


39 posted on 07/23/2023 5:52:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Hattie

Purchased a NEW washing machine and it needs parts. Parts are on order. Washer is now three weeks old and has not washed one load


40 posted on 07/23/2023 5:58:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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