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Ukraine Link to French Riots? Russia Says Western Arms Sent to Kyiv Used by Protesters in France
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Posted on 07/08/2023 4:28:04 AM PDT by ganeemead

Arms to "ukraine".....

I've BEEN saying this, i.e. that there is no accountability in any of our arms for ukraine deals and those arms are gonna end up in the hands of drug cartels and street gangs not just in LA and Chicago, but in middle America. Your local police are gonna have pistols and the hoodlums will be driving tanks and self-propelled howitzers...


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To: Wallace T.
If you ask the question, who benefits, the answer is definitely not Ukraine.

Ukraine never benefitted from its relationship with the USA and NATO. In 2013, it had a whole, and peaceful country. It had Crimea. It has Russian-speakers and Ukrainian-Speakers voting together to elect Presidents. Its citizens wanted closer relations with the EU, for trade, but also - so they could emmigrate. There was NEVER support for war or confrontation with Russia. Even Zelensky was elected on a "peace platform."

Sadly, the Maidan coup gave them war. In a very classic move, the US/NATO empowered and pushed forward a very fringe, radical group of ultra-nationalists and neo-nazis, who would prepare the stage for conflict with Russia. Who benefitted? Neocon ideologues in Washington DC.

And since then, Ukraine has lost Crimea, it has lost the east, it has lost 30% of its population, and it lost a generation of young men.

21 posted on 07/08/2023 5:24:01 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Phoenix8
LOL yeah wanting peace in Ukraine, a country not even in NATO, fighting a country who is not communist

Is russia not our enemy? Did Putin in 2022 threaten NATO, demanding it withdraw from Eastern Europe, Poland, the Baltics, etc?

Acting like the Ukrainian invasion and annexation by russia is like some war between Azerbaijan or Armenia is silly.

22 posted on 07/08/2023 5:26:20 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: PGR88
There was NEVER support for war or confrontation with Russia.

Right, Ukraine didn't want war, and therefore didn't invade russia. Putin invaded and annexed parts of Georgia and then invaded and annexed parts of Ukraine saying an independent Ukraine cannot exist.

23 posted on 07/08/2023 5:30:56 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo
Putin invaded and annexed parts of Georgia

Stop your lying NATO weasel.

24 posted on 07/08/2023 5:34:18 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Wallace T.

I’d be more inclined to believe the Taliban is routing some of our “abandoned” weaponry into France.


25 posted on 07/08/2023 5:35:18 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Candor7
Zalensky has banned the Orthodox church, banned 11 major political opposition parties, and more:

Lies. Zelensky ONLY banned the MOSCOW LED ORTHODOX CHURCH, that supports the Putin invasion of Ukraine.

Zelensky banned 11 pro-russian parties out of more than 300 parties that exist in Ukraine.

Zelenskyy: I thank Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew for the spiritual support of Ukraine


26 posted on 07/08/2023 5:37:44 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Wallace T.

There are several possibilities as to ow the French rioters are obtaining guns. I don’t know enough about the French military to know if they have leaders who would push Macron as they crush the rioters. If it is like ours, the flag officers are Depp State acolytes. Macron has made sounds about closer relations with the BRICS nations. It is possible American and British sources are providing the weapons to undercut the French regime


27 posted on 07/08/2023 5:39:25 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: tlozo

No they are not. Well I mean they certainly are our enemy NOW after our weapons have killed a few 10s of thousands of their sons.

They could have been our strongest Ally and a bulwark against the REAL mortal threat—Commie China, CCP. However due mostly to Democratic strategists and some neo-cons since the mid-90s when Clinton pushed NATO East and then Obama almost guaranteed war with help from Victoria Nuland in 2014. That hope is nothing more than a dream now. We will be lucky if their isn’t a strong Russian-Chinese military alliance after this bloody mess is over.

The worlds greatest nuclear arsenal and largest country allied with the worlds greatest population and strongest economy, think about it.


28 posted on 07/08/2023 5:40:41 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: ganeemead

Russia isn’t fascist. It’s Communist.


29 posted on 07/08/2023 5:42:02 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: ganeemead
Russia is a Christian nation trying to defend itself

Russia has a State Religion that follows Putin not the Bible.

Orthodox Church leader says Russian soldiers dying in Ukraine will be cleansed of sin.

Russian Priests Blessing Weapons


30 posted on 07/08/2023 5:42:27 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: ganeemead

No accountability for our weapons going to Ukraine? Who coulda guessed that one. Anything the left does, which includes this war, will have no accountability. Thus it’s easy to believe such weapons were sold making someone quite wealthy. And some how or another this will be Trump’s or the J6’ers fault.

And I have a feeling all that military gear left in Afghanistan isn’t just sitting there collecting rust and dust.


31 posted on 07/08/2023 5:45:23 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Wallace T.
Why would the Ukrainians send arms to a NATO member that is an ally to sew civil chaos?

In a black market the sellers are agnostic and the buyers are anonymous. Greed is the motivating factor and any corrupt Ukrainian could be repsonsible.

There is a whole separate conversation to be had about "who benefits" from a little chaos in France right now.

32 posted on 07/08/2023 5:46:52 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Reaganez

And your country has bigger debt than next 10 countries combined. Bankrupt country should avoid more debt poking nose in unnecessary foreign wars.


33 posted on 07/08/2023 5:48:14 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politician DeSantis is there to build wealth. Trump is there to lose wealth to serve people.)
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To: Phoenix8
No they are not. Well I mean they certainly are our enemy NOW after our weapons have killed a few 10s of thousands of their sons.

Reality Check: Putin threatened the US and demanded NATO withdrawal from eastern European countries like Poland, Lithuania, and the Baltic's, BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.

Russia demands NATO roll back from East Europe and stay out of Ukraine - December 17, 2021

The demands contain elements - such as an effective Russian veto on future NATO membership for Ukraine - that the West has already ruled out.

Others would imply the removal of U.S. nuclear weapons from Europe and the withdrawal of multinational NATO battalions from Poland and from the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania that were once in the Soviet Union.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-unveils-security-guarantees-says-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/

34 posted on 07/08/2023 5:50:20 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: mac_truck
MAY HAVE COME FROM UKRAINE.

LOL, "MAY HAVE". Okay

35 posted on 07/08/2023 5:52:00 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: ganeemead

What crap! You must be Russian.


36 posted on 07/08/2023 5:55:21 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: ganeemead

You’re a moron


37 posted on 07/08/2023 5:57:43 AM PDT by Dartoid
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To: Reaganez
Russia is a fascist dictatorship that has invaded and is terrorizing a democracy.

What if it wasn’t a democracy?

On June 22, 2023, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told the BBC that Ukraine's scheduled 2023 parliamentary and 2024 presidential elections would occur only if martial law had ended by that time, as reported by the New Voice of Ukraine:

38 posted on 07/08/2023 6:03:30 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: tlozo

Doyou think banning poliical opposition and the chuhrch is OK? Justified by circumstnces?

Zekensky is only just a little bit fascist?

Hardly. Zelensky is a nationalist socialist supporter of the Globalists Klaus Shwab and his running dogs.And he does their bidding to assure that the Globalist Agenda will be fulfilled, rather than protecting the nation. And he has been used by Biden who slow walks military aid to assure a war of attrition rather than Victory.So Zelensky is a covenient trope to these Globalists whom Putin detests.

The ar inUkraine must end, or the world will be at war for a generation with CHina becoeing the doinant power in the world as America;s decline proceeds apace.

Goodbye to Zelensky. His days as a leader will be soon over unless he starts looking for an off ramp.And when he does Biden will drop him like a wet sock with holes in it.Trump will rebuild Ukraine if there is anything left of it thanks to the Globalists who run NATO, including Zelensky.


39 posted on 07/08/2023 6:06:49 AM PDT by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: tlozo

“Is russia not our enemy?”
Our enemy is All evil men who trade in war and death.
Nations come and go yet”I AM”is eternal.
Put your faith in God not nations.
Accept Christ and the boundries of nations will fall by the wayside.
Here you are lusting for death in another mans war.
Knock on the door Christ will answer,come join a brotherhood of man.
It is much larger than a nation.
I bet you just pray for Ukrainian soldiers.


40 posted on 07/08/2023 6:08:56 AM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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