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To: tlozo

No they are not. Well I mean they certainly are our enemy NOW after our weapons have killed a few 10s of thousands of their sons.

They could have been our strongest Ally and a bulwark against the REAL mortal threat—Commie China, CCP. However due mostly to Democratic strategists and some neo-cons since the mid-90s when Clinton pushed NATO East and then Obama almost guaranteed war with help from Victoria Nuland in 2014. That hope is nothing more than a dream now. We will be lucky if their isn’t a strong Russian-Chinese military alliance after this bloody mess is over.

The worlds greatest nuclear arsenal and largest country allied with the worlds greatest population and strongest economy, think about it.


28 posted on 07/08/2023 5:40:41 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8
No they are not. Well I mean they certainly are our enemy NOW after our weapons have killed a few 10s of thousands of their sons.

Reality Check: Putin threatened the US and demanded NATO withdrawal from eastern European countries like Poland, Lithuania, and the Baltic's, BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.

Russia demands NATO roll back from East Europe and stay out of Ukraine - December 17, 2021

The demands contain elements - such as an effective Russian veto on future NATO membership for Ukraine - that the West has already ruled out.

Others would imply the removal of U.S. nuclear weapons from Europe and the withdrawal of multinational NATO battalions from Poland and from the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania that were once in the Soviet Union.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-unveils-security-guarantees-says-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/

34 posted on 07/08/2023 5:50:20 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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