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‘No way I’m going back in the office’: Farmers Insurance told workers they’d be WFH permanently. Now they need to come in 3 days a week
MSN ^ | 28 June 2023 | Braden Bjella

Posted on 06/28/2023 11:25:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

The return to in-office work has not gone well. As detailed by Entrepreneur, companies that have forced workers back into the office are currently facing a litany of issues ranging from employee dissatisfaction to difficulty hiring.

“Unispace finds that nearly half (42%) of companies that mandated office returns witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated,” writes author Gleb Tsipursky. “And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment.”

For the companies who are considering returning to the office, the outlook isn’t great.

“According to the same Greenhouse report, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules,” Tsipursky details. “Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility goes out the window.”

Even though the data shows that ending remote work will bring issues for companies, that hasn’t stopped several major companies from trying. One such company is Farmers, which captured headlines and sparked reactions across the internet after reversing its remote work policy and forcing employees to come into the office 3 days a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: change; cities; office; wfh
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To: cgbg

I would disagree that what I said is a myth.

It depends how jobs are structured and what tasks you are performing.

I’m happy things worked out so well for you and your virtual team. Would you care to share what sort of work you were doing? Were you emailing documents or excel spreadsheets back and forth? Chatting on Zoom sessions?


81 posted on 06/28/2023 7:05:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Vigilanteman
Simple exercise-- you are on hold for a complex airline reservation. What background noise would you most like to hear:

None, because the company transferred my call to a competent employee who can actually process the reservation, while they might be working from home.

82 posted on 06/28/2023 10:37:36 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: wildcard_redneck
Not one major corporation fought the government in court. They were in on the coup.

Bingo. They were the model of Fascism, where the government has korporations do the work for them.

83 posted on 06/28/2023 10:39:33 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If your job is structured so that personal collaboration with others is needed to accomplish the tasks, then work from home doesn’t work so well.

"Personal collaboration" became "carrying dead weight" a long time ago.

Real personal collaboration is far better when members aren't sitting in room with their mouths shut because they don't dare speak the truth about the project and/or the team members skill sets and performance.

84 posted on 06/28/2023 10:46:15 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Reno89519

Get stuffed, troll.
The only reason to go into the office is to justify the overpriced leases on the large buildings constructed to stroke executives’ massive egos.


85 posted on 06/28/2023 10:47:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Augie

This thread will bring out the FR jackboots.

Three of the first six responses in favor of tyranny in the workplace. lol

Remember, if you can do your job from home, it can be done from India.


86 posted on 06/29/2023 1:55:52 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

“if you can do your job from home, it can be done from India.”

That’s short and to the point. Once people catch on to that concept, maybe attitudes will change.


87 posted on 06/29/2023 3:28:12 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

What you fail to consider is that the nature of work now is that many jobs can be done from a laptop, whether that laptop is on a kitchen table or in a docking station in a cubicle.

So if a company really wants the laptop to be in an apartment in Mumbai, that’s what is going to happen, no matter how many U.S. workers do or do not balk about returning to the office.


88 posted on 06/29/2023 4:38:01 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: rxh4n1
Remember, if you can do your job from home, it can be done from India.

The Indians that are competent are already here in the U.S., and a lot of them who are here are not that competent, and the ones offshore are not competent at all.

Although retired now (will turn 53 soon) I still do gig work during winter months for kicks and giggles. That work entails fixing all the stupid things that this one Fortune 500 company, in a cost saving strategy, hired H1Bs and offshore to do during the rest of the year. I spend two or three days on campus surveying the damage and the rest is WFH. Easy consulting money for me. At least they took my recommendation this past February and re-hired a couple of FTE Americans.

YMMV

89 posted on 06/29/2023 4:52:27 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Reno89519

On the flip side of your argument, after mandating vaccinations and requiring WFH, those companies that insist on all of the pure risk of working in an office deserve to be driven out of business when their access to talent dries up.


90 posted on 06/29/2023 4:52:47 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: T.B. Yoits

Well, yeah. But that competent employee might own a dog or have a crying infant. My point was that we want competent and efficient service no matter where the employee is working. But you knew that.


91 posted on 06/29/2023 6:20:33 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

To be fair my boss that didn’t agree that WFH is a defacto pay raise was a really good boss otherwise. His comment was that all he expected was a paycheck that he was promised for the work he did.


92 posted on 06/29/2023 6:31:34 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: usconservative

93 posted on 06/29/2023 6:32:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Reno89519; dead
That may be your experience and I won't dispute it. I'm certain it does happen.

I will simply say that in the large multinational bank that I work for, and specifically in the Technology organization, it doesn't happen.

I'm closing my 17th year here. We've had hybrid work from home for the past 10+ years already. I personally have worked from home 3 days/week and in office 2 days/week long before the Fauci Created Covid Pandemic (FCCP). The Technology Organization's metrics have improved YoY each of the past 10 years, the biggest productivity gains as measured by our agreed to metrics (Tech/Management/Business Partner agreement) happened during the FCCP.

It's absolutely counter-intuitive to say return to office "or else" and as dead pointed out above, it's about saving Real Estate Investment Trusts(REIT's) from collapsing and hurting the economy.

I also know this for fact because our CIO and CTO were browbeaten by former Shitcago Mayor Lori Lightfoot to ORDER return to office to save downtown Shitcago.

The new mayor, unarguably worse than Lightfoot is trying to do the same thing while coddling the criminals and crime in Shitcago being 40% worse since he tookover.

Nuh uh. Not happening. Not going to Shitcago to work. And if 700+ people leaving since January isn't enough to convince the bank they're on the wrong path (just like the idiot in the White House) then the steady stream of people headed out the door will continue until no one's left.

? Also fact.

94 posted on 06/29/2023 6:53:07 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: wildcard_redneck

No, they just weren’t stupid. The company I work for has hundreds of offices all over the world. Do you really think they should have gotten into hundreds of lawsuit with city, state and national governments all over the world? That would be asinine of them. They had a business to run, they figured out the best way to handle the evolving situation and did it. No reason to waste millions in hundreds of courts, to accomplish nothing because most of the closure orders were lifted before the things even got to court. There was no coup for them to be in on.


95 posted on 06/29/2023 7:28:54 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

We were underwriting large commercial loans from all over the country.

Our subject matter experts included local appraisers and inspectors (for the project) and lawyers based on the state.

They worked with me (and other underwriters) to develop an analysis that was presented to a national (virtual) loan committee.

There was no “office” to go to....


96 posted on 06/29/2023 8:59:53 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The reality is that if work can be done in India it will be—regardless of the debate about “office” vs “work at home”.

That horse has left the barn.


97 posted on 06/29/2023 9:02:42 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg
That horse has left the barn. . . .

. . . AND dropped a load of road apples as a parting gift.

98 posted on 06/29/2023 10:05:50 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: discostu

It is called corporate fascism for a reason. Enjoy being a compliant slave.


99 posted on 06/29/2023 11:11:01 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: dead

1/3rd of San Francisco office space is empty.... for multiple reasons but still!


100 posted on 06/29/2023 11:23:04 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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