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‘No way I’m going back in the office’: Farmers Insurance told workers they’d be WFH permanently. Now they need to come in 3 days a week
MSN ^ | 28 June 2023 | Braden Bjella

Posted on 06/28/2023 11:25:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

The return to in-office work has not gone well. As detailed by Entrepreneur, companies that have forced workers back into the office are currently facing a litany of issues ranging from employee dissatisfaction to difficulty hiring.

“Unispace finds that nearly half (42%) of companies that mandated office returns witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated,” writes author Gleb Tsipursky. “And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment.”

For the companies who are considering returning to the office, the outlook isn’t great.

“According to the same Greenhouse report, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules,” Tsipursky details. “Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility goes out the window.”

Even though the data shows that ending remote work will bring issues for companies, that hasn’t stopped several major companies from trying. One such company is Farmers, which captured headlines and sparked reactions across the internet after reversing its remote work policy and forcing employees to come into the office 3 days a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: change; cities; office; wfh
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Not long after the January Davo meeting, our company tried to force everyone back into the office. Quite a few of them made it clear that it was a non-starter. Since my commute is to a nice rural area and they initially asked only for three days, I reluctantly agreed. When they asked for five, I told them it just wasn't worth it.

Out of gratitude for hiring me at age 61 and treating me well otherwise, I would give them until the end of the summer and train my replacement.

A number of other employees wouldn't even go that far. So it is only my department which is going to make a smooth transition because some idiot CEO (who is being replaced July 1) got a bee in his bonnet over some new trend announced in Davos in January.

I suppose I could've stayed and gloated, but why?

1 posted on 06/28/2023 11:25:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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Correction: January Davos Meeting


2 posted on 06/28/2023 11:27:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Sorry, deal with it. If workers won’t go back to the office when requested, they should be replaced.


3 posted on 06/28/2023 11:29:15 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Vigilanteman

People working remote often moved to places that they liked, such as the countryside, and changing the rules back is both specious and malicious. Let the downtown cores ruled by parasite politicians die a slow, lingering death.


4 posted on 06/28/2023 11:32:03 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yet another indication we live in a soft, entitled and spoiled society.


5 posted on 06/28/2023 11:33:52 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Vigilanteman

“Let them pretend to work somewhere else.”

- Elon Musk

I agree.


6 posted on 06/28/2023 11:35:24 AM PDT by POWG
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Big insurance and finance companies are ordering people back into the office because they are trying to keep the commercial real estate market, in which they are heavily invested, from a total collapse.

Long-term, it’s a lost cause.

7 posted on 06/28/2023 11:38:56 AM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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To: Reno89519
Sorry, deal with it. If workers won’t go back to the office when requested, they should be replaced.

The 1950s called.

It wants you back.

8 posted on 06/28/2023 11:39:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: dead

Yup. I think this is at least 80% about the real estate value. It’s not so much about getting warm bodies into the office.


9 posted on 06/28/2023 11:40:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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To: dead

You’re right..It is all about the bottom line and the building not going by the way of San Francisco hotels.......


10 posted on 06/28/2023 11:42:10 AM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: Hambone 1934

Annnnd the malls.....


11 posted on 06/28/2023 11:42:36 AM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: Vigilanteman

This thread will bring out the FR jackboots.

Three of the first six responses in favor of tyranny in the workplace. lol


12 posted on 06/28/2023 11:43:33 AM PDT by Augie
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To: dead
Big insurance and finance companies are ordering people back into the office because they are trying to keep the commercial real estate market, in which they are heavily invested, from a total collapse.

Many own large headquarters with about 20% of their normal attendance, it really makes the building empty. But, this happens over time. GE once had something like 30,000+ employees in downtown Schenectady NY, I think now they have 5,000

13 posted on 06/28/2023 11:47:33 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“Sorry, deal with it.”

Read the article—the employers are the ones dealing with it—more people quit, harder to recruit.

Needless to say it is many of their most talented people who will be giving them the middle finger—there are plenty of insurance companies out there who will be happy to hire remote workers who bail from Farmers.

Meanwhile the drones with no talent will have to go to the office....and morale and productivity will go down the tubes.

Bonus: The workers who plan to bail can keep quiet about it and get their resumes out—and then leave for other employment when it suits them.

This is like taking a ticking time bomb to a business—never know when it is gonna blow.


14 posted on 06/28/2023 11:47:52 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: POWG

My coworker texted me one morning that she was working from home that day bc her family needed her. She phones it it as it is

I objected very subtlety. I knew I wasn’t allowed to do so without a legit waiver from HR.

Coworker was so angry.w me that I wasn’t putting her family first.

Pure insanity.

PS 6 weeks of FMLA and some months of adjustment we have a more clear division of work and she can do whatever she needs to do but she has to do her half of the work. From the office.

Morale is better than before

People tend to get nasty when they take advantage of coworkers

Any way working from home is not the same as having a private business from home like being a writer or artist or contractor where income is totally based on productivity


15 posted on 06/28/2023 11:49:08 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

That said, farmers should not have told them it was permanent


16 posted on 06/28/2023 11:49:48 AM PDT by stanne
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To: plain talk

“we live in a soft, entitled and spoiled society.”

Bring back the whip and chains—the good old days...

Bwahahahahahaha.


17 posted on 06/28/2023 11:49:55 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

People who moved thinking things would never go back to the office made their own mistake. Even companies that thought wfh was working well didn’t say it was going to be permanent. It was always a temporary thing to keep going through silly lockdowns. At some point they were going to remember that team work happens best in person.


18 posted on 06/28/2023 11:52:06 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Vigilanteman

The biggest problem I had with Working From Home is that my deal is ten steps from my refrigerator.


19 posted on 06/28/2023 11:53:17 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: discostu

“team work happens best in person.”

Bwahahahahaha.

Before I retired we had an army of office LaQuishas shouting on the phone all day with the Department of Corrections discussing the status of her “good boy”.

Once I got to work from home I accomplished double the work—and contacted the people I needed to contact without any problem.

For some reason I never called any of the LaQuishas....


20 posted on 06/28/2023 11:54:50 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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