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‘No way I’m going back in the office’: Farmers Insurance told workers they’d be WFH permanently. Now they need to come in 3 days a week
MSN ^ | 28 June 2023 | Braden Bjella

Posted on 06/28/2023 11:25:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

The return to in-office work has not gone well. As detailed by Entrepreneur, companies that have forced workers back into the office are currently facing a litany of issues ranging from employee dissatisfaction to difficulty hiring.

“Unispace finds that nearly half (42%) of companies that mandated office returns witnessed a higher level of employee attrition than they had anticipated,” writes author Gleb Tsipursky. “And almost a third (29%) of companies enforcing office returns are struggling with recruitment.”

For the companies who are considering returning to the office, the outlook isn’t great.

“According to the same Greenhouse report, a staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules,” Tsipursky details. “Moreover, employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility goes out the window.”

Even though the data shows that ending remote work will bring issues for companies, that hasn’t stopped several major companies from trying. One such company is Farmers, which captured headlines and sparked reactions across the internet after reversing its remote work policy and forcing employees to come into the office 3 days a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: change; cities; office; wfh
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To: Reno89519

Thats all there is to it. Company has the right to change policy at will.... dont like it, leave. Im sure at this point the company sees the decline in productivity and comedy of lock outs/masks/vaccines in general.


41 posted on 06/28/2023 1:15:59 PM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: Reno89519

with who?


42 posted on 06/28/2023 1:20:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Vigilanteman

People who work in offices think they are more special than the blue collar guy who had to go in all during the scamdemic


43 posted on 06/28/2023 1:25:06 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: Vigilanteman

Duh. I could’ve told them that. I will not accept any project that is not 100% remote. Once they FORCED us to work remotely an we all saw it could be done just as easily from home as from the office, we realized there was no reason why we should waste our time commuting as well as bear the expense associated with commuting as well as place ourselves under the thumbs of woke HR departments.

Its not just companies will lose people by insisting they return to the office. Its that they will lose their very best people.....the ones other companies want and are prepared to offer 100% remote roles to get.


44 posted on 06/28/2023 1:45:07 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: stanne
I objected very subtlety. I knew I wasn’t allowed to do so without a legit waiver from HR.

You have an agreement between you and your employer; you're compensated accordingly. If you're not compensated well enough, you will leave.

Why would someone else's arrangement be any of your business?

45 posted on 06/28/2023 1:51:57 PM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: Captain Walker

It most certainly affects me. She wanted me to conspire to subvert HR so she can take care of her family She can take FMLA

My point is people pretend working from home is the same as working in the office. My partner wanted me to clear her to half ass her job pretending she was doing her full job from home. She wants me to agree to let her subvert HR so they won’t say no which thymes would have


46 posted on 06/28/2023 2:07:31 PM PDT by stanne
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To: discostu

Corporations caved like little bitches to the unconstitutional lockdowns and now they can reap the whirlwind. To hell with them, they will not get everyone back into the office and they will not be able to save the value of their commercial real estate holdings.


47 posted on 06/28/2023 2:15:05 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: discostu

I don’t see the problem. Everyone, top to bottom, knows how much work should be satisfactorily produced in a work day.

Give the layabout laggards an opportunity to get up to speed. If not, replace them, be it in the office or as a remote.


48 posted on 06/28/2023 2:25:08 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Wasn’t much they could do. Government says to shut down you do it. Heck I’ve dealt with my company having trouble getting the occupancy license when re-modeling the building we wanted to move into. Gotta pick your fights.

They’ll get everyone back into the office. It’s just going to take a lot of time and whining.


49 posted on 06/28/2023 2:27:54 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: qwerty1234
lol, the employer telling you where they want you to work is ‘tyranny’...sounds like a typical liberal exaggeration.

If I'm able to meet or exceed service levels operating from a remote location, why on earth would any boss who has a lick of sense ask me to drive to an office somewhere to do the same work? I'll answer for you - they wouldn't.

But the boss who demands that you respect his auth-OR-it-tie will ask you something that stupid because he wants to keep you under his thumb and take credit for your work.

Are you one of those bosses?

50 posted on 06/28/2023 2:28:10 PM PDT by Augie
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To: FLT-bird

>>Its that they will lose their very best people.

If you don’t do what the people paying you want to do, then by definition, you are certainly NOT on of their very best people.

What is best for you personally, is not necessarily best for the company....I write the checks, I get to decide the rules - you get to decide if you accept my terms; it is a pretty simple transaction.


51 posted on 06/28/2023 2:29:42 PM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: cgbg

I am dealing with the threat of having to go back to the office after three years of work from home. I’ve moved to the country. I will take a lower paying job near home before I make a 90 minute one-way commute.

I have put in considerable time training new employees who live far from the office. They are good workers. They both told me that they have begun looking for other jobs.

I have been very flexible visiting clients when it is good for them- evenings and weekends— because I work from home.

That will stop if I have to go back to the office. They will all have to put up with my schedule. I will make no accommodations for them.

We have had tons of job openings for 18 months now. It will only get worse.

And all the sh*t stirrers will stir up even more sh*t in the office because they are pissed off with having to be in the office in addition whatever pisses them off normally.


52 posted on 06/28/2023 2:30:25 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: kiryandil
The 1950s called.

It wants you back.


Isn't that the truth - the world cannot change for the better since we didn't benefit.
53 posted on 06/28/2023 2:30:26 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: citizen

A lot of work isn’t that measurable. How do you measure “got an idea for a feature”? Or “answered a question”?


54 posted on 06/28/2023 2:33:04 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; ChessExpert; subterfuge
You three have it exactly right.

Some jobs can be done just fine from home, some cannot. To paint everything with the same broad brush is asinine.

One reason employers want to force people back into the cube farms is because the cost is borne entirely by the employees both in terms of commute time and wear and tear on the car and the body.

My daughter who works in management in Japan, arguably the most gregarious people on the planet, has a hybrid system-- two days at home, three days in the office.

It is called work life balance and it actually works. But you have the two extremes of control freaks who declare it can't and the slackards who declare it must. I'm willing to bet that the same ones who waste time in the office also do it at home and vice versa.

Simple exercise-- you are on hold for a complex airline reservation. What background noise would you most like to hear:

  1. Elevator music
  2. Other agents talking in the background to give you the impression of a scam/boilerroom
  3. An occassionally dog barking or child wailing

55 posted on 06/28/2023 2:40:19 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Augie

Well said. And the answer to your question ‘why on earth would any boss who has a lick of sense ask me to drive to an office somewhere to do the same work?’ is that huge number of bosses don’t have a lick of sense.


56 posted on 06/28/2023 2:43:29 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Exactly. My suspicion is that they want companies to go through the trouble of bringing people back to the office so they can f*ck it all up against with another plandemic and lock down. Or a dirty bomb.


57 posted on 06/28/2023 2:48:16 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: FLT-bird

Do you have unique, high demand job skills, which gives you leverage to not accept a project which is not 100% remote?

And since you mention projects, are you some sort of freelance or independent contractor, rather than an employee when you are at work?


58 posted on 06/28/2023 2:58:28 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: stanne
It most certainly affects me. She wanted me to conspire to subvert HR so she can take care of her family She can take FMLA

I didn't catch that in your post. (Clearly, if a co-worker is asking you to lie on his or behalf, then you would not be expected to jeopardize your own position.)

59 posted on 06/28/2023 3:07:50 PM PDT by Captain Walker (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.-Pascal)
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To: Reno89519

Sorry, deal with it. If employers won’t offer remote work, leave them/refuse to work for them.


60 posted on 06/28/2023 3:54:25 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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