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Remember the asbestos issue?

Posted on 05/24/2023 6:55:03 AM PDT by LouAvul

I guess it's still around. I worked at a filling station in the early 60s and they did a lot of brake work. I didn't realize brakes were made with asbestos.

I worked for pop's construction company and we did quite a bit of demolition. I knew there was some insulation with asbestos, but it was also in drywall and joint compound.

And it's still around. I didn't realize that. It wasn't outlawed till the late 70s/1980 and lots of buildings are still standing with asbestos building materials. Apparently, as long as it's encapsulated it's not an issue.

From my googlefoo, the latency period is 20 years to 60 years, with the average being 40 years. The demographic affect (mostly) are those who worked in the industry. Mining the material, manufacture of insulation, brakes, etc. And ~20% of those workers were adversely affected.

"Prolonged exposure" is a term researchers use.

It's sort of like sunshine in that, when baby boomers were young, we didn't even think about the potential for harm.


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To: Red Badger

I had asbestos in my 1930’s Works Progress Administration era junior high school, which has been replaced.


21 posted on 05/24/2023 7:22:44 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: z3n

Are you one of the millions of Americans suffering from the devastating effects of mesothelioma due to long-term exposure to asbestos in the workplace? Call 1-888-ASBESTOS now to find out if you qualify for compensation!


22 posted on 05/24/2023 7:23:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: LouAvul

My Dad was a heavy commercial electrician in the ‘40-’50-’60s in industrial Bridgeport, Stratford, CT areas.
Would scrape the asbestos off of beams and columns to mount electrical panels. Was also a heavy smoker all of that time.
He’d blow off the asbestos from his clothes with a blowgun.

He’s now 89, and has asthma (plus a bunch of other stuff, incl. dementia.) But no sign of cancer or mesothilioma.
Just some anecdotal info.


23 posted on 05/24/2023 7:24:10 AM PDT by sonova (That's what I always say sometimes.)
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To: LouAvul

Many linoleum flooring products and ceiling tiles, especially in commercial environments such as offices, factories, and schools, also contained asbestos.


24 posted on 05/24/2023 7:25:40 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: LouAvul

On the other hand, we weren’t inflicted with dozens of questionable jabs by the time we were toddlers.


25 posted on 05/24/2023 7:27:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Dr. Sivana

All the previous lawsuits wil pale in comparison to Pfizer’s and Moderna’s damage.


26 posted on 05/24/2023 7:28:45 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Brian Griffin

It is a great material for what it was used for, but dangerous in the long term.

Looks like science could modify it in such a way as to make it harmless yet still do its job...................


27 posted on 05/24/2023 7:29:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: George from New England

Those “some” are idiots if they buy the theory that planes took down any of those buildings.


28 posted on 05/24/2023 7:29:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BobL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos


29 posted on 05/24/2023 7:31:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: LouAvul

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/uscs/about/data-briefs/no27-incidence-malignant-mesothelioma-1999-2018.htm

Cases numbers should be close to vanishing at this point in time. They are not, which indicates that post-1972 worker safety measures may be inadequate.


30 posted on 05/24/2023 7:31:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Red Badger
Actually, funny you should mention that. On Steve McQueens wiki bio (or, some such), it mentioned that when he was in the Marines, he was tasked with dealing/removing asbestos laden building materials. The bio attributed that to his lung cancer.

Dunno how they know, though, since he was also a heavy smoker.

31 posted on 05/24/2023 7:33:05 AM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.." )
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To: Red Badger

Ray bolger stuffed it in his scarecrow outfit to protect him.

It was used as snow in a lot of old movies.

I think Bolger died of bladder cancer


32 posted on 05/24/2023 7:37:46 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sonova

There is a poster here who knows some people that do cancer research associated with American Cancer Society. There was a discussion about how they are really thinking genetics is key and the poster made this comment which I will probably never forget....

You can swim in asbestos and probably not get cancer unless you have the genetic quirk for it.


33 posted on 05/24/2023 7:40:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: LouAvul

There are millions of $$ still left in the Asbestoes law suit pool that are unclaimed. Perhaps the McQueen estate lawyers can go get some of it. It’s free money


34 posted on 05/24/2023 7:40:59 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: RummyChick

It was a miracle material for what it was intended.

Surely science could make it harmless and preserve its properties.

Maybe we should ask THE WIZARD!................


35 posted on 05/24/2023 7:42:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

“It was a miracle material for what it was intended.”

That also stands for DDT.


36 posted on 05/24/2023 7:42:36 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: LouAvul

Another great invention thrown into the pit by environmentalist along with DDT, plastic straws etc.


37 posted on 05/24/2023 7:45:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: sonova
"...mesothelioma..."

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A friend of mine's dad died of mesothelioma / lung disease at age 70.
For years he worked in a plant that reconditioned brake pads.

And I'm sure that smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 50 years
had nothing to do with it.

/sarc

38 posted on 05/24/2023 7:45:59 AM PDT by GaltAdonis
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To: Red Badger

I remember watching videos in junior high school about amazing asbestos!


39 posted on 05/24/2023 7:47:04 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: LouAvul

I think his dad worked around asbestos as well.

His exposure was to a very identifiable type of asbestos used in insulating boiler joints and pipes.. Those people exposed to that should get checked every six months, IMHO.

That asbestos is always friable to airborne fibers and not encapsulated in any way.

Vinyl Asbestos floor tile system encapsulated in the tile material unless ground up or ground off of a floor. That type of asbestos laden material generally is less than 1% of demolition debris and therefore does not require abatement.


40 posted on 05/24/2023 7:48:13 AM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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