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Habu Pilot reveals why the Blackbird had to refuel after takeoff (it’s not because the SR-71 leaked fuel)
The Aviation Geek ^ | 7 May 2023 | Linda Sheffield Miller

Posted on 05/09/2023 5:48:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

No story on the SR-71 would be complete without an understanding and appreciation of just how valuable the KC-135Q model tankers and their crews were to the successful and safe completion of every mission.

“We had to refuel right after takeoff for only one reason, and it wasn’t because we leaked JP-7 fuel on the ground. Yes, the plane does leak fuel, but not enough to require refueling after takeoff.

“The JP-7 fuel reaches temperatures well over 300 degrees F. during Mach 3 cruise, making the fumes in each of the six fuel tanks very volatile and potentially explosive. The metal skin of the aircraft approaches 400 degrees F., adding to the volatility of the fuel inside the tanks. One of our aircraft limitations was a maximum speed of Mach 2.6 without an inert atmosphere inside the fuel tanks."

(Excerpt) Read more at theaviationgeekclub.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: sled; sr71
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To: Paladin2
I used to use one of those when I was a kid, working for my dad. You could get pretty fast with a little practice.

Love the sound of the Friden.

21 posted on 05/09/2023 6:12:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”)
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To: Pete Dovgan; All
The J58 engine was key to achieving 3.6+ mach. Here's a link on the engine:

https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Engines/j58-the-powerplant-for-the-blackbirds

FTA: The Pratt & Whitney J58 (company designation JT11D-20) was a jet engine that powered the Lockheed A-12, and subsequently the YF-12 and the SR-71 aircraft. The J58 was a single-spool turbojet with an afterburner. It had a unique bleed from the compressor to the afterburner which gave increased thrust at high speeds. This feature caused it to be referred to as a turboramjet in some writings.

An amazing engine in an amazing aircraft.

The aircraft also had stealth characteristics.

22 posted on 05/09/2023 6:16:13 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: BipolarBob

—”How does one defuel 15000 pounds of fuel?”

While still on the ground the fuel is returned to the tanker truck.
The fuel was used to safely purge 100% of the air from the tank, as the fuel is withdrawn a low-pressure nitrogen charge is placed on top.


23 posted on 05/09/2023 6:16:18 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Pete Dovgan

That makes sense...


24 posted on 05/09/2023 6:18:43 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Paladin2

One of my college professors had one of those in his office.


25 posted on 05/09/2023 6:19:41 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: Paladin2

Many keys, but could it do extraction of roots, trig functions, logs...?


26 posted on 05/09/2023 6:20:54 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Love the sound of the Friden.”

Dividing by zero was always fun to listen to.


27 posted on 05/09/2023 6:22:16 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sirius Lee

Yep, it was designed to do everything, but does nothing very good. The F-16 OTOH was designed by to be an air superiority fighter ONLY and does it very well.


28 posted on 05/09/2023 6:22:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: algore

Hey, I thought I had it!


29 posted on 05/09/2023 6:25:04 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: Bounced2X
Computers were large and cumbersome when we were in high school, but most large companies had them. Smaller companies purchased services from data processing companies. Mainframe time costs more per hour (in nominal dollars) than a laptop costs today, and had only a fraction of the processing power. And today's software is miles ahead of yesteryear's.

"Say, Bob, can you please mount the FORTRAN 66 compiler?"

30 posted on 05/09/2023 6:25:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Pete Dovgan

The RamJet was very inefficient at low speed, because it relies on compression of air to burn the fuel effectively. “

I’m into pulsejets and ramjets as a hobby, maybe even an invention. I have a chart somewhere that shows ramjet efficiency equals turbojet at about Mach 2.4.


31 posted on 05/09/2023 6:28:48 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (away.)
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To: rktman

—”Interesting link as to moving her from the Burbank to Area 51.”

NICE!


32 posted on 05/09/2023 6:31:20 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: BipolarBob
How does one defuel 15000 pounds of fuel?

With fuel tank truck I guess. When I was in the Air Force we had a "button pusher" guy playing with controls in the cockpit that he knew nothing about and set the switches to dump fuel. When someone later applied power to the airplane, it proceeded to dump 12,000 lbs. of JP-4 onto the tarmac.

33 posted on 05/09/2023 6:31:45 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Jewbacca

“”””In Israel we were all still trained with slide rules, and still are, assuming that, during our lifetime there will be a major EMP attack, destroying computers.””””

In 1972 in Artillery FDC we spent a few days training on the FADAC computer, which we thought was wonderful and so much more fun than the slide rule, but after those days the Army told us they hoped we enjoyed it but that we would probably never see it again because the slide rule was the only thing we could depend on in a major war.


34 posted on 05/09/2023 6:33:45 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Bounced2X

—”There were no computers. Desk tops, lap tops were far into the future.”

And when TI finally came out with a scientific pocket calculator, I was too cheap to purchase one, plus I was never wild about RPN.

As a trainee, I worked for slide rule wizards!
True math masters at that time.


35 posted on 05/09/2023 6:41:16 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Blueflag

—”Coolest. Plane. Ever.”

TRUE!
I have a large SR-71A poster on my wall.


36 posted on 05/09/2023 6:43:27 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Sirius Lee

“That’s nothing. The F-35 was designed with a committee.”

lol! Nice!


37 posted on 05/09/2023 6:44:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“could it do extraction of roots, trig functions, logs”

One could use it to interpolate between table entries....


38 posted on 05/09/2023 6:49:54 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: libertylover

A weight-on-wheels switch should prevent that. Maybe it was disabled for maintenance or testing. There’s always one guy who will mess around with things and has no idea what he’s doing.


39 posted on 05/09/2023 7:04:44 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
For those interested in some lite reading. SR-71 Manual
40 posted on 05/09/2023 7:13:26 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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