Posted on 05/03/2023 7:17:17 AM PDT by Red Badger
A Marine veteran took matters into his own hands after an unhinged homeless man boarded a Subway train and entered into an aggressive tirade, putting the vagrant into a chokehold that reportedly led to his death.
According to witness and freelance journalist Juan Alberto Vazquez, the man – identified as 30-year-old Jordan Neely – boarded the train and began screaming at passengers. “He started screaming in an aggressive manner. He said he had no food, he had no drink, that he was tired and doesn’t care if he goes to jail. He started screaming all these things, took off his jacket, a black jacket that he had, and threw it on the ground,” Vazquez told the New York Post.
Neely’s intimidating actions prompted an unnamed 24-year-old Marine veteran to spring into action, stepping up behind Neely and putting him into a chokehold, Vazquez continued, adding that the veteran held Neely on the ground in the hold for about 15 minutes.
“He moved his arms but he couldn’t express anything,” Vazquez explained to the New York Post of Neely. “All he could do was move arms. Then suddenly he just stopped moving,” Vasquez stated, explaining, “He was out of strength.” By the time the train was stopped and authorities called, Neely had lost consciousness. Though EMS officials attempted to revive the homeless man, he was pronounced dead.
“None of us who were there thought he was in danger of dying,” Vasquez said. “We thought he just passed out or ran out of air.”
While Vazquez told the outlet he was grateful that the Marine vet had jumped in to help, the fatal outcome had him feeling torn, stating that perhaps more moderation could have been used. “This would never have happened if the police had shown up within five minutes,” he added. “Then we’d be talking about a true hero. It’s complicated.”
\ The 24-year-old Marine was taken into custody and later released without charges, pending the results of an investigation and autopsy report.
So now it’s not direct threats, it’s “threatening gestures” or “intimating” that violence may or may not happen? When you’re done moving the goalposts let me know.
He hadn’t pushed anyone on to the tracks ....yet.
Give him some free needles and a safe place to shoot-up and he'll be OK....until the next time..
It’s a bit hard to push someone on to the tracks from INSIDE the train. Doable, but difficult.
You should go ride the NYC subways for a few days, at similar times and in similar locales.
Let us know how that goes.
He saved someone from getting stabbed, beaten, robbed or otherwise abused. You think he should have let him up to continue? No cops, no transit police, scrotes and deranged are loosed on the city... this has to happen. He did the best he could.
I have been an NYPD cop for almost 20 years. I’m still active. I’ve ridden the NYC subway thousands upon thousands of times. I currently live in VA as part of a task force.
If he has any brains, time to skip town to somewhere with no extradition.
Assuming facts not in evidence.
“Homeless guy didn’t actually touch or threaten anyone”
Trapped in a train car and a maniac starts raving and terrorizing everyone. Yeah, that’s a threat. Especially when the government has withdrawn the protection society always had.
“The chokehold is designed to INCAPACITATE someone, not to kill him. If he died as a result, I doubt that was the Marine’s intent.”
No, it’s definitely designed to kill someone if you keep it up for 15 minutes.
Exactly. I hope he is having a beer with Snowden before the NYC DA office can get moving.
” Unless you know of other statements made by this person during his tirade, yelling that you have no food and don’t want to go back to jail are not statements that would put someone in reasonable fear for their safety.”
Yeah sure Bill. And if your mom woulda been 80 and in that car seated closest, you wouldn’t think she was reasonable to fear for her safety?
And tell us more about military training. You sound like an expert.
“Yeah, that’s a threat.”
Not according to the law it isn’t. And you don’t get to make up your own standard and expect it to hold up in court.
We need MANY MORE warriors on the streets of America.
My MOS is 11A. Ranger tab, airborne, air assault, mountain warfare, level 1 combatives (the lowest level).
A woman will need a monthlong waiting period before dating a Marine Vet, and she’ll have to keep her Marine Vet disarmed and in a separate bedroom during the night.
lol
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