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To: AnthonySoprano

In 1935, the government passed the Social Security Act,
establishing government welfare for retirees and setting a
formal age of retirement at 65. This number is important. In
1935, the average life expectancy was on 61.7 years, but
that included a high rate of infant mortality. A little over
half of people who survived to age 21 were expected to make
it to 65, and were expected to only need social security
for about 12 years before passing away. With many Americans
working in rough conditions, few could work past 65 anyway,
so this was a good age for retirement. People at 65 needed
welfare, and since they were only supposed to live into
their 70s, it wasn’t a huge strain on the government.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/retirement-age-history.html


5 posted on 03/23/2023 12:05:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It makes sense to move the age incrementally to 70 or 72. Obviously this would be for people not yet working and thus not officially “in” the system. Just as we moved it from 65 to 67+, time to move it up to 72 with limited benefits beginning at 65.


16 posted on 03/23/2023 12:22:16 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m 78 yo and am active like a 60 yo.

My grandmother at my age, needed my help to get around.


17 posted on 03/23/2023 12:25:10 PM PDT by Karoo
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To: DoughtyOne

Your #5. Are you supporting cuts to social security?


18 posted on 03/23/2023 12:26:01 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: DoughtyOne

Curiously you never hear a word from these people about cutting welfare, or shuttering the multitude of useless government agencies that suck our tax dollars. Not to mention the endless wars and giveaways to the Ukraine.


19 posted on 03/23/2023 12:29:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: DoughtyOne

Unfortunately, the gov scum also added a lot of others to the SS money teat (to buy votes) besides those citizens who were forced to pay in at gunpoint.


20 posted on 03/23/2023 12:29:30 PM PDT by curious7
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To: DoughtyOne
also, SS tax started miniscule.....its now a big chunk of a workers pay...plus they pay for Medicare as do surviving seniors....we all pay...

the whold US system is corrupt while the rich get richer....

I worked at a non profit for decades and have no defined pension and no retirement medical....

I have 401k that I mostly contributed to with a little bit from my employer....

I demand my SS...

notice they never talk about taking anything away from our public workers, even those who double and triple dip....

79 posted on 03/23/2023 4:11:35 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DoughtyOne

Bringing in facts. What ARE you thinking?

About 10 years left before SS payments WILL be cut 25% or so, but people want to avoid taking any decisions now. Retirement age was raised under Reagan and could be raised another year now. We could increase the level at which people stop paying SS taxes. We could, IMHO, start SERIOUSLY looking at how many people are getting SS “disability” payments who are healthy. I’ve got an ex-SIL who looks pretty fit for someone with permanent VA & SS disabilities!

And FWIW, my perspective is one who is supposed to start getting full SS in a year. If I’m honest, they ought to slip that another year. And raise the earliest age of getting SS to maybe 64-65.


86 posted on 03/23/2023 4:43:11 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: DoughtyOne
My Great Great Grandfather lived too be 105. He died suddenly when he fell of his horse on the way to church one sunny Sunday morning. In this picture he was still a spy lad of only 83. My grandfather lived to be 88, and my Mom lived to be 85. I am currently 66, and look to live until I die. FDR and his buddies vastly underestimated the longevity of life. Especially in an era when 60% of the citizens lived so far under the radar folks in DC didn't even know they existed.


88 posted on 03/23/2023 8:08:58 PM PDT by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: DoughtyOne

The entire point is lost by using the word “welfare” to describe a system workers pay into.


94 posted on 03/24/2023 6:13:40 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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