Posted on 03/23/2023 11:58:54 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano
. You can see where this is going.
The FOX News $$$ recruits every person representing the Republican View on TV / Radio to say it’s not the Trillions to failing, unaccountable Cities - but the people getting 25k a year for the 45 years they paid into it.
This Conversation, which will be the RNC platform, neglects to say that Congress allowed and incentivized Corps (Donors) to do away with Pensions and Retiree Healthcare and change their systems to assume (adequate) Social Security Income at 62 which moved to 65 in exchange for donations from those Corporations.
From Hannity to Levin, now Bongino - we can’t print money fast enough to send to Corrupt Hands in Ukraine, but we can’t afford that 30k SS benefit to a worker, who was forced to participate his/her whole life.
I would only agree to raise the SS age IF the govt employees....all of them...city, county, state, federal, and military ....do not start collecting until age 62 minimum.....
I always liked P.J. O’Rourke’s saying.
“Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work’. Then they get elected and prove it.”
I always enjoyed P.J. O’Rourke’s writing.
Well until he went full Trump Derangment Syndrome and endorsed Hillary over The Donald. That wasn’t a high mark in his career.
I totally expect more printing to keep it from happening.
“Notice only those who don’t need SS are the ones talking about cutting it.”
Always is. I know people who rely on it to survive. Lots of reasons for that. Poor planning. Bad luck. Illnesses. Careers that didn’t provide pensions. I wouldn’t have a problem with means testing but not everyone will agree. Federal retirees can have their SS income reduced if they get a federal pension.
Bringing in facts. What ARE you thinking?
About 10 years left before SS payments WILL be cut 25% or so, but people want to avoid taking any decisions now. Retirement age was raised under Reagan and could be raised another year now. We could increase the level at which people stop paying SS taxes. We could, IMHO, start SERIOUSLY looking at how many people are getting SS “disability” payments who are healthy. I’ve got an ex-SIL who looks pretty fit for someone with permanent VA & SS disabilities!
And FWIW, my perspective is one who is supposed to start getting full SS in a year. If I’m honest, they ought to slip that another year. And raise the earliest age of getting SS to maybe 64-65.
I never paid into Social Security, since their is no trust fund.
I did pay two “Income Taxes”, one was called an “income tax”, while the other was called FICA.
So, if I do get a government stipend when I retire, it will be on the backs of my kids and grand kids.
Good one.
I’ve never begrudged the rich. I’d like to be rich some day.
No matter if the rich employ others or not, and most do
either directly or indirectly, their wealth does. Investments
fund other businesses, and they hire.
We wouldn’t get a lot of things we want, if someone rich
wasn’t vested in it.
The Left loves to game the rich against the middle class
or poor. I could care less if some other smart guy found
a way to make money. Good for them.
I’m one of those guys who applied for and received a SS
disability retirement.
And if you saw me on the street, you’d say, wow that guy
looks pretty danged healthy.
I used to get challenged on it. I was in the “old folks”
end of the pool and the lifeguard told me that area was
only for seniors. I was just over 40 at the time.
I was there rehabbing because there was less weight on
my legs when in the water. Just a few days before, I had
been at a hospital whirl-pool, having to be lifted into
the pool by a hoist. It was the only way I could get in.
In two years, I lost the larger veins in my legs. Because
the valves in those veins didn’t work any longer, my blood
would go to my feet and stay there. Lower legs up...
My ankles would swell up at 400% or more. To make it so
I could work longer, I wore panty hose for compression for
about five years.
I continued to work and then I had a job that required a
lot of walking around a warehouse with concrete flooring
with no padding.
It was so painful, when I got laid off under a consolidation
I decided not to go back to work. Pins and needles didn’t
begin to describe it.
I couldn’t stand or sit for a long period of time without
swelling up all day, and then reducing that swelling at
night. The damage that did to my ankles caused quarter
sized sores to develop in the general area of my ankle
bone. Those took four months to heal.
I didn’t know how to handle them, and one time when I
tried to remedy the situation, I created a raw area on
the inside of my foot that was between the size of a
quarter and a half dollar. It looked like hamburger
and felt like someone was driving a steak knife
through my foot.
My wife got upset about the situation convinced I was
sloughing off, despite knowing of and seeing my condition.
Meanwhile anyone seeing me walk by thought that I looked
very very healthy. I wasn’t. All her (and some were mine)
sided with her, because she wanted sympathy.
I went on SS and she split.
Thanks. Interesting and good points.
Cool
+1
The entire point is lost by using the word “welfare” to describe a system workers pay into.
As someone in the private sector, I am for eliminating the defined benefit pension for ALL government workers including teachers. I also thing SS should be semi privatized so that people can begin to contribute a portion of the 15+% into a personally managed qualified account. It's complex, but it will eventually be worth it for all recipients. I also believe that ROTH contributions should be tax deductible, we need to incentivize personal savings as much as possible.
That got my goat too.
It’s like we’re supposed to be ashamed of taking our monthly checks.
I earned it. Screw ‘em.
There are people like you. And there are fakes. I’m guessing, unlike my former SIL, you don’t go for long hikes or ride motorcycles all day long. His ex and his kids believe there is nothing wrong with him.
I’ve met too many “disabled vets” who have gamed the system. When 3 disabled vets go for a day hunting in the mountains, or have no problem bar hopping, I lose sympathy for their “I can’t work because of the pain” schtick.
And fwiw, all my uncles were in WW2. So was my Dad, but he stayed in and died in Vietnam. I was career military and my kids have all been in the military. My nephew is and my nieces all married military vets. I’m not anti-vet and there ARE vets who have suffered horribly. Not all physically. After he died, my Mom told us my Dad suffered from nightmares his entire life - although he refused to tell her what they were and no one else ever knew about them. But he’d start shaking and sweating in his sleep and he refused to talk about the 3 wars he was in.
But not all disabled vets are disabled. Some are good at lying.
I don’t go on long hikes, but I do hike, and I have some nice
electric bikes and I do peddle about 90.00% of the time when
I ride.
My problem was my circulation. My main veins were gone, and
the valves along with them.
The legs are pretty amazing though. There are enough veins
down there that eventually they will kick in and alleviate
the problems. It took about 25 years for that to happen
for me.
About ten to fifteen years in, I was still having a real
problem.
I had to wear pressure socks all the time, if up or
sitting.
Then I noticed, I was no longer having issues, after taking
a few years off, and not stressing my lower extremities.
So yeah, I look pretty normal these days. Of course folks
don’t seen my disfigured feet and legs when I’m out. They’d
understand that I have been through a lot, if they did.
I never got a handicapped placard. I could have and was
urged to by family. I wanted to leave those slots for
others with lifetime affirmatives.
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