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First hydrogen-powered airplane takes flight....
KOMO News ^ | 3/3/23 | KOMO News

Posted on 03/04/2023 7:28:39 AM PST by volunbeer

MOSES LAKE, Wash. — The first flight of a hydrogen-powered airplane was a success this week, showing zero-emissions air travel could be on the horizon.

The 40-passenger regional airliner using hydrogen fuel cell propulsion took off at 8:41 a.m. Thursday from Grant County International Airport and flew 15 minutes, reaching an altitude of 3,500 MLS. The aircraft, nicknamed Lightning McClean, was developed by California-based company Universal Hydrogen.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: aviation; hydrogen; lightningmcclean; moseslake; universalhydrogen
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1 posted on 03/04/2023 7:28:39 AM PST by volunbeer
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showing zero-emissions air travel could be on the horizon.


but it produces water vapor which “causes global warming”


2 posted on 03/04/2023 7:29:53 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Hydrogen must be separated from water using electrolysis. That requires energy. Where did the energy come from?


3 posted on 03/04/2023 7:31:54 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: volunbeer
Earlier version didn't work out too well


4 posted on 03/04/2023 7:35:15 AM PST by xp38
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Would not biologically produced alcohol do well at this?

Bio-alcohol is an ecologically closed system. Plants “collect” co2 from the atmosphere, it’s fermented into alcohol, and conventional engines burn it — like gasoline, but cleaner.

I would think the sheer weight of all the things needed for hydrogen fuel cells would be too heavy for efficient or long-range performance.

—Or, is ONLY 100% PERFECT ZERO CARBON emission the (politically correct) goal here? Is very LOW carbon emission not good enough?

Perfection is the enemy of practicality.


5 posted on 03/04/2023 7:39:32 AM PST by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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> Hydrogen must be separated from water using electrolysis. That requires energy. Where did the energy come from? <

That’s an excellent question, and one you’re not supposed to ask.

And for the curious, here’s the answer. It doesn’t look like a very green process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_reforming


6 posted on 03/04/2023 7:39:59 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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reaching an altitude of 3,500 MLS

What the hell is 3,500 MLS?

Was this article written by a chatbot?

7 posted on 03/04/2023 7:40:35 AM PST by norcal joe
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To: volunbeer

Where do you get the hydrogen?


8 posted on 03/04/2023 7:42:01 AM PST by fretzer
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I just thought this was interesting and I enjoy these discussions here on FR because we do have people who understand this enough to provide worthwhile analysis.

IF you combined hydrogen production using nuclear power it appears to me that it would scale and we could meet some of our transportation needs from the process economically. However, like all the new “green tech”, the rainbows and unicorns crowd will continue to talk about wind/solar despite the fact that we still achieve less than 5% of our electricity from the technologies.


9 posted on 03/04/2023 7:42:44 AM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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Would not biologically produced alcohol do well at this?

Alcohol is a hydrocarbon that has a lower energy density than gasoline.

10 posted on 03/04/2023 7:45:06 AM PST by fso301
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>What the hell is 3,500 MLS?

He/She/It likely meant MSL which is mean sea level.

>Was this article written by a chatbot?

Possibly, but it could be an ignorant or dyslexic human too.


11 posted on 03/04/2023 7:45:36 AM PST by fretzer
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15 minutes... Wow!


12 posted on 03/04/2023 7:45:59 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: William of Barsoom

“Would not biologically produced alcohol do well at this?”

Very good point. Hydrogen has never worked economically as a fuel for just this reason.

If you want an entirely renewable fuel growing it will always be cheaper than electricity.


13 posted on 03/04/2023 7:47:11 AM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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Perfection is the enemy of practicality.


Absolutely.


14 posted on 03/04/2023 7:47:16 AM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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The problem with nuclear power is that it’s pollution-free, which means the Left will have nothing to cry about. They’re always quick to point out the dangers and the nuclear waste, which are far easier to deal with than the supposed threat of CO2, but that doesn’t seem to matter. Funny that for all their predictions of doom, they’re unwilling to accept any viable energy alternatives.


15 posted on 03/04/2023 7:47:55 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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MLS???


16 posted on 03/04/2023 7:48:00 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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It is a poorly written article by the KOMO staff but pretty sure they meant “sea level” as an altitude measurement.


17 posted on 03/04/2023 7:49:18 AM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Busy little elves running on treadmills in the engine department


18 posted on 03/04/2023 7:50:50 AM PST by Bob434
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To: fretzer

From hydroplaning vehicles of course


19 posted on 03/04/2023 7:52:02 AM PST by Bob434
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MLS??? - Maniac Libtard Syndrome.
20 posted on 03/04/2023 7:53:45 AM PST by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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