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‘It was the wrong choice’: Retired ATF agents question commander’s decision to raid Mt. Carmel; adamant Branch Davidians fired first
kwtx ^ | Feb. 28, 2023 | Gordon Collier

Posted on 03/01/2023 3:42:27 PM PST by PROCON

WACO, Texas (KWTX) - On Feb. 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tabaco and Firearms launched a raid at the Branch Davidian compound near the community of Elk, about 13 miles outside Waco.

They were attempting to serve a search and arrest warrant for the leader of the religious sect, David Koresh, for illegally stockpiling weapons.

During the ensuing gun battle, four ATF agents and six members of the Branch Davidians were killed.

The shootout led to a 51-day standoff that ended with the compound burning to the ground, claiming the lives of 76 Branch Davidians, including Koresh.

Robert White and Blake Boteler, two retired ATF agents who were there the day the standoff began, sat down with KWTX for an interview, eager to tell their side of the story after so many years of silence.

“As we stepped off the trailer it was a wall of lead,” said White, recalling his fellow agents knew the raid was a mistake as soon as the now famous horse trailers came to a stop outside the compound.

“We played into Koresh’s hand,” said White, “He said, ‘they’re gonna come for us,’ and that’s what happened.”

The deadly confrontation outside the Davidian compound was the biggest shootout in law enforcement history.

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“The tactical commander made a choice, and it was the wrong choice, and it cost four agents and six Branch Davidians their lives,” the agents said.

The retired agents are not shy about putting blame squarely on the tactical commander who gave orders despite the fact that the Branch Davidians knew they were coming.

Waco 30 years later brought to you by Janet Reno and Slick Willy.

1 posted on 03/01/2023 3:42:27 PM PST by PROCON
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2 posted on 03/01/2023 3:43:10 PM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PROCON; FRiends

“Waco 30 years later brought to you by Janet Reno and Slick Willy.”

An excellent reminder, reminding us all ONCE AGAIN what is WRONG with Big Government. :(


3 posted on 03/01/2023 3:45:46 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: PROCON
I specifically remember Janet Reno saying they had to launch the attack because the agents on scene would lose their edge. She said it several times. That's what that commander and Janet cooked up. Bill Clinton was behind it 1000 percent.
4 posted on 03/01/2023 3:48:26 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: PROCON

We all know it was the wrong choice


5 posted on 03/01/2023 3:49:19 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: PROCON

Shoot my dogs and I’ll shoot back. That’s the feds firing first.


6 posted on 03/01/2023 3:51:35 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Forget "Global Warming", new grants are for "Galaxy Dimming")
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To: PROCON

He’s a liar.

L


7 posted on 03/01/2023 3:51:39 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I remember the child rape and meth lab accusations too.


8 posted on 03/01/2023 3:52:43 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Forget "Global Warming", new grants are for "Galaxy Dimming")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

.GOV trying for sympathy...
Suck one Big Brothers!


9 posted on 03/01/2023 3:54:26 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The front door congeniality disappeared


10 posted on 03/01/2023 3:56:22 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: South Dakota

Lol.. conveniently disappeared


11 posted on 03/01/2023 3:57:17 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: PROCON

The criminal fbi.


12 posted on 03/01/2023 3:59:34 PM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: PROCON

Have the sheriff walk up and knock on the door to talk or send in without any provocation a platoon of battle rattle gear queers . Anyone who saw those assholes coming at them would figure it’s on.


13 posted on 03/01/2023 3:59:57 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: blackdog

First they demonized them in the press, got many Americans pumped up about allegations of child marriages, etc.

Then the feds dropped the hammer.
They used FLIR to shoot people trying to escape out the back while roasting the rest.
I was a liberal red-diaper baby before I realized what had happened to those poor people. Understanding what the feds did in Waco and Ruby Ridge really changed my perspective entirely.
Inhuman and disgusting treatment of my fellow American men women and children.
Mrs. AV


15 posted on 03/01/2023 4:03:33 PM PST by Atomic Vomit (http://www.cafepress.com/aroostookbeauty/358829)
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To: PROCON

30 years from now, how many retired federal agents will be lamenting the orders they followed on behalf of the OBiden administration?...


16 posted on 03/01/2023 4:03:43 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: PROCON

The FBI Hostage Murder Team slaughtered women and children trying to escape the flames.

The FLIR Project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOW6UbAVs8A


17 posted on 03/01/2023 4:05:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: PROCON

They could have grabbed Koresh at anytime when he went into town.


18 posted on 03/01/2023 4:06:05 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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There’s no lies like government lies. David Koresh went to town on a regular basis. A warrant could have been served there. They wanted this firefight. Anyway the men, women and children they wanted killed were killed so job complete. May God judge the murdering FBI for their deeds.


19 posted on 03/01/2023 4:07:17 PM PST by BipolarBob (The rumor has not been confirmed until the FBI officially denies it.)
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To: PROCON

Could have taken him in town. No big deal but the bent one had security detail problems he wanted to solve.


20 posted on 03/01/2023 4:07:20 PM PST by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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