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Opinion: The enduring enigma of Karen Carpenter
ctpost ^ | Feb. 4, 2023 | Joel Samberg

Posted on 02/04/2023 1:21:55 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo

This (day) marks the 40th anniversary of the untimely passing of Karen Carpenter. The singer, whose worldwide popularity has not waned for 53 years, was a month shy of her 33rd birthday when her heart stopped beating the morning of Feb. 4, 1983. Her death was attributed to the effects of anorexia nervosa, from which she had suffered for several years.

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To: ConservativeInPA

“There’s actually less money in the music business today that back in the 70’s.”

In 2021 dollars Carpenter’s net worth (1981) was between 15 and 30 million. Taylor Swift’s net worth in 2021 was over 400 million.

There’s plenty of money in music these days - and it leads to other fields and more money.


41 posted on 02/04/2023 3:02:38 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

For no reason whatsoever I listened to the Carpenters Essentials Thursday.

Took me back to my youth. Very cool.


42 posted on 02/04/2023 3:04:55 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

If she would just have ate a slice of pizza sometimes, we would still have her voice with us. very selfish.


43 posted on 02/04/2023 3:06:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

For some reason I always link The Carpenters and Bread together, because they both came out around the same time, and were the fore-runners of soft rock, it was kind of that time when all the tumult from the 60s was finally coming to an end.


44 posted on 02/04/2023 3:06:23 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Sounds like Bob Seger’s story. He was very much a regional star until the mid-70s. He packed 80,000 fans into the Pontiac Silverdome one night, but couldn’t draw flies in California.

I think that all changed when the album “Live Bullet” — recorded over two live shows in Detroit — was released. It effectively made his stage performance a national act, and suddenly everyone wanted to see him in concert.

45 posted on 02/04/2023 3:12:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Show biz is a very high pressure business. I think both Karen and Richard were perfectionists. I remember seeing a biopic on them a long time ago, and it suggested that Richard had problems with pills (Quaaludes) in the late 70s. After 1976, they had no major hits. That and an insane touring schedule probably added to the pressure. She also had a failed marriage that added more pressure. Toward the end of her life, she did start gaining weight again and was even described as “vibrant”. However, the damage done to her heart by years of anorexia had taken its toll.
46 posted on 02/04/2023 3:15:10 PM PST by rbg81
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To: vladimir998

Richard Carpenter’s current net worth is listed as $14-18M. To me that seems shockingly low.


47 posted on 02/04/2023 3:16:55 PM PST by rbg81
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Rules. Pretty girl, good drummer, great singer.


48 posted on 02/04/2023 3:17:43 PM PST by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: Migraine

Add Joan Osborne


49 posted on 02/04/2023 3:19:05 PM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: vladimir998
In 2021 dollars Carpenter’s net worth (1981) was between 15 and 30 million. Taylor Swift’s net worth in 2021 was over 400 million.

Taylor Swift is the biggest pop star in the world and has been for about a decade. Before that, she was the biggest country star in the world. Taylor Swift sells out NFL stadiums and often, multiple nights at NFL stadiums.

50 posted on 02/04/2023 3:22:09 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: chrisinoc
A couple of classmates of mine said they did noon concerts at Long Beach State during the late 1960s before they started to play professionally.

I have heard that before. I missed them by just couple of years. That would have been fun.

51 posted on 02/04/2023 3:22:28 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: rbg81

The big money is in ownership of the songs... most of the Carpenter’s hits were covers... for instance ‘Superstar’ was written by Leon Russell. Most of Richard’s money would be from arrangements and residuals from album sales.


52 posted on 02/04/2023 3:25:38 PM PST by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I am streaming Seranade Radio these days and listening to all the greats


53 posted on 02/04/2023 3:33:42 PM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: RckyRaCoCo; All

The group got criticized by many of the “tut tut tsk tsk “ set for her song “Goofus” but it was a FUN SONG!!! Tight harmonies, and breezy easy swing and a killer sax riff solo with some lovely steel guitar playing as well as a tinkly saloon rag time piano style affected by her brother! What’s not to love??!! Just have fun with it and don’t look for secrets of the Karen Carpenter universe in the song. It was meant for fun!


54 posted on 02/04/2023 3:35:05 PM PST by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: dayglored

Karen Carpenter on the drums. Slow beginning but gets really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9TmMfnZyY4


55 posted on 02/04/2023 3:35:31 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Hard to beat her voice as well as Richard’s talents.


56 posted on 02/04/2023 3:37:53 PM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: llevrok

I use to sing her songs when I went to Keroki because my voice teacher said I sounded like her. Her range was very comfortable as were her songs. Had a lot of fun doing that as the Host had a fabulous system....rew a good crowd who appreciated good singers.


57 posted on 02/04/2023 3:45:17 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: madison10

The impression I got from reading various sources along the way was that Richard was supposed to be the “star” of the family, and when Karen’s voice suddenly outshone Richard’s piano and arranging talents, both Richard and their mother couldn’t handle that, and tried to keep her in her “place” creatively.

If she had been able to break free, not just from her parents, but from Richard as well, I think she could have achieved more.


58 posted on 02/04/2023 3:53:56 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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To: DesertRhino

If Cass Elliot had given her ham sandwich to Karen Carpenter, they might both be alive today.


59 posted on 02/04/2023 4:10:54 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: RckyRaCoCo

/eyeroll

Don’t care.

She was a vanilla singer.


60 posted on 02/04/2023 4:26:49 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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