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US Debt Clock (M2 supply is now decreasing, dollar to gold/silver/oil ratios at $0)
US Debt Clock ^ | 1/28/23 | US Debt Clock

Posted on 01/28/2023 8:21:50 AM PST by C210N

Changes are afoot in the financial system. Here are some data points:

Dollar to gold, silver and oil ratios are now pegging at $0. They all have since sometime yesterday, 1/27/23.

M2 Money Supply is decreasing.

Calls To Mint Trillion-Dollar Coin Resurface As Government Faces Debt Crunch


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: currency; debt; money
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Is N.E.S.A.R.A. getting in-gear for a financial RESET?

Is the FED in panic mode?


1 posted on 01/28/2023 8:21:50 AM PST by C210N
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To: C210N

Dollar to oil ZERO? Must be new math lol


2 posted on 01/28/2023 8:25:19 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: C210N

Can someone explain what this mean/infers?


3 posted on 01/28/2023 8:32:17 AM PST by fini
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To: C210N

Lots of interesting stats, but I won’t pay $4.99 for the app.

There is no explanation how these stats were calculated or source referenced.


4 posted on 01/28/2023 8:36:35 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: C210N

M2 growth needs to decrease to reduce inflation. Its going to hurt and there is no way around it.


5 posted on 01/28/2023 8:36:38 AM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: entropy12

SA went off the petrodollar


6 posted on 01/28/2023 8:42:08 AM PST by EBH
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To: C210N

July is when the digital hits or at least that is the timeline


7 posted on 01/28/2023 8:43:31 AM PST by EBH
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To: frogjerk

Please explain what is going to happen from your perspective.


8 posted on 01/28/2023 8:43:36 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: tired&retired
but I won’t pay $4.99 for the app.

Never even thought of paying for any app, just ignore it/them.... the info is free to view on the web page. The proprietors of the page are associated with the clock in mid-town Manhattan.

9 posted on 01/28/2023 8:44:12 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: entropy12

Why do people freak out over the “national debt” but nobody really worries when a corporation issues shares of its stock to bring in new investors?
When the Fed creates dollars and gives them to banks so they can buy Treasuries its equivalent to a corporation creating shares and selling them at a fixed price. Nobody expects the corporation to buy as many of its shares as it creates (balanced budget) or to ever buy up all its shares unless the company goes private. This would not be a good thing for America as we know it.

Nobody says the corporation adds to its deficit by creating stock. If they overdo it and create too many shares, the corporations earnings-per-share are diluted and the market reduces the value of the shares. In this case the value of the dollar goes down relative to other currencies (floats) in the FX market which is the real “stock market” for national wealth in the world. This makes imports more expensive and can add to inflation.

What’s frustrating is that so few people in government and even at the Federal Reserve even understand how their own corporation works. They still play games with “debt ceilings” and come up with gimmicks like the “debt clock” to scare average people and gain power over them.


10 posted on 01/28/2023 8:47:08 AM PST by Dave Wright (i)
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To: EBH

Yep, this could be the presage of a/the CBDC.

The question is will this be a good CBDC or bad CBDC. If the CBDC is metals-backed, it will be good. Otherwise, it will be tied to the worst of the Great Reset - social control of what we do, where we go, what we can purchase, etc.


11 posted on 01/28/2023 8:47:32 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Dave Wright
how their own corporation works...

Great points.

Another data point that generally folks do not know about - the sum total of ALL deficits (minus surpluses) since 1789 is $21 Trillion. Compare that to today's national debt of $31 Trillion. The take away from that (and other facts/sources) is that the IRS/FED is setup to ONLY PAY INTEREST on the debt (our currency is debt-based). Not a plug nickle has EVER gone to pay for a single federal program, nor to pay for any national debt *principle*.

This is the true nature of non-federal non-reserve FED/IRS Bankstering.

12 posted on 01/28/2023 8:51:45 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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Stonk go up a lot next week. 3-5%.


13 posted on 01/28/2023 8:53:49 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: Dave Wright

BIG DIFFERENCE!
Corporations issue new shares to bring in capital for PRODUCTIVE purposes. They buy more infrastructure and hire more workers. Also issuing new shares is not really a debt since the money received has no obligation to pay it back.

National debt must be paid back with interest. And majority of money spent is non-profuctive. Currently federal Treasury is paying out in excess of 2/3 Trillion dollars for fiscal year ending on Sept 30, 2023.


14 posted on 01/28/2023 8:54:53 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Dave Wright

You are wrong on so many points. Overwhelming majority of US corporations have issued more shares and overwhelming corporate share value is now higher than ever.

National debt is costing taxpayers 2/3 of TRILLION DOLLARS in interst alone, for fiscal year ending in September 2023. Corporations have no legal obligation to pay back even 1 penny of the money received by issuing more shares.


15 posted on 01/28/2023 9:04:07 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: fini
We've turned some corner not seen since at least 1960 (and, probably never before that either).

This youtube from SalivateMetal should give some insight: $0 SILVER! The Debt Clock Has COLLAPSED For The FIRST TIME!


16 posted on 01/28/2023 9:10:26 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: entropy12
National debt must be paid back with interest.

Interest is paid back. No principle whatsoever, though.

Any principle "paid back" would be with more debt.

17 posted on 01/28/2023 9:12:30 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Dave Wright
Why do people freak out over the “national debt” but nobody really worries when a corporation issues shares of its stock to bring in new investors?
When a corporation borrows money it has a responsibility to produce some good/service with the borrowed funds. When the government prints money it buys/consumes goods and services or gives the money away. So companies invest and government divests, well unless one considers buying votes an investment which I think politicians do.
18 posted on 01/28/2023 9:14:23 AM PST by dblshot
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Really? I just cashed in 10 US Treasury bonds which had matured, and US treasury paid me INTEREST PLUS PRINCIPLE! Maybe you are thinking about Zimbabwe bonds.


19 posted on 01/28/2023 9:18:13 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: C210N

So what, are foreigners refusing to sell oil to the USA?


20 posted on 01/28/2023 9:31:36 AM PST by scrabblehack
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