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Metallurgical Fingerprint Points to Lost Roman Legion
Heritage Daily ^ | December 5, 2022 | Bergau-Museum

Posted on 01/04/2023 7:21:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The 19th Legion was founded by Augustus in 41 or 40 BC, first operating in Sicily against a revolt led by Sextus Pompey, the son of Pompey the Great.

Active throughout the Germanic campaigns of Drusus (13–9 BC) and Tiberius (8–5 BC), the 19th legion would eventually be destroyed at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in AD 9, resulting in the legion’s eagle being captured and the 19th name stricken from the Roman army listings...

The team analysed the composition of chemical trace elements in Roman artefacts found at modern-day Kalkriese (site of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest), which are mainly made from non-ferrous metals such as bronze and brass.

By applying a mass spectrometer to detect small traces, the researchers are able to determine the difference in the non-ferrous metal composition that differ with each legion. Each legion had their own blacksmiths for repairing and replacing weapons or equipment. This gave their metalworking a distinct chemical signature, as techniques differed in each legion’s camp.

German Mining Museum Bochum researcher, Annika Diekmann, said: "In this way, we can allocate a legion-specific metallurgical fingerprint, for which we know the camp locations at which they were stationed."

According to historical text, the 19th was stationed in Dangstetten in southern Germany, years before the events of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. "We find that the finds from Dangstetten and Kalkriese show significant similarities. The finds that come from legion sites whose legions did not perish in the battle, differ significantly from the finds from Kalkriese", added Diekmann.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 19thlegion; cladesvariana; europe; godsgravesglyphs; history; legioxix; publiusvarus; romanempire; rome; teutoburg; variandisaster
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1 posted on 01/04/2023 7:21:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/04/2023 7:32:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sextus Pompey? Sextus Pompey? Really?

How about Nautius Maximus? Or Biggus Dicus?

Ancient wokeness obviously lead to the disaster (or triumph, depending on which side you were on) of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest.


3 posted on 01/04/2023 7:45:16 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: packagingguy

Sextus was Pompey’s sixth kid, ‘r somethin’. In the HBO series “Rome”, the Quintus character may have been loosely based on Sextus, but afaik, there never was a Quintus Pompey.


4 posted on 01/04/2023 7:50:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So (1) they knew knew the legion was destroyed, (2) they knew where it happened, and (3) they knew where they’d been before. Basically a perfect control group to test the technique with.

This will perhaps lead to better understanding of the source of unknown finds down the road. Clever.


5 posted on 01/04/2023 8:08:18 PM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: SunkenCiv

Augustin wants his legion back.


6 posted on 01/04/2023 8:28:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


7 posted on 01/04/2023 8:53:02 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: packagingguy

He has a wife you know.....


8 posted on 01/04/2023 9:11:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: SunkenCiv

SunkenCiv,

As a person with a historical mindset.

I have to compliment your ability to ‘dig up’ news on archaeology.

Well done and Happy New Year.


9 posted on 01/04/2023 11:49:45 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: DesertRhino

Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks.


10 posted on 01/05/2023 2:54:22 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: packagingguy

Name traditionally given to the sixth born child. Given the rates of infant mortality, some of his older siblings probably died early and that’s why they wouldn’t be known to history.


11 posted on 01/05/2023 3:14:04 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I used to have a keychain like that ;)


12 posted on 01/05/2023 4:35:24 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: packagingguy; DesertRhino; FLT-bird
Shattup!


13 posted on 01/05/2023 5:45:28 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: SunkenCiv

Roman Sex toy?.....................


14 posted on 01/05/2023 5:47:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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15 posted on 01/05/2023 5:48:12 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

So this is further confirmation of a location site considered most likely for the last 35 years or so. Northern Germany, west of Hanover but still south of Bremen. the use of the word pass in all historical descriptions had always lead me to believe it was further south in areas of more topography.

I wish I had been able to travel Germany and see that varied land first hand, but alas, it is still on my list.


16 posted on 01/05/2023 7:02:33 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke

Yeah, the 19th c “memorial” to Herman/Arminius is way, way off.


17 posted on 01/05/2023 7:28:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: unclebankster
Thanks unclebankster, and HNY 2U2!

18 posted on 01/05/2023 7:37:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Ovid: The Poet and the Emperor
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zx411L7et/?uid=4256317A783431314C376574

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3874650/posts?page=22#22


19 posted on 01/05/2023 7:41:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger

That could be anything, if the Roman Empire said, you’re a sex toy, well, then, you’re a sex toy. :^o


20 posted on 01/05/2023 7:43:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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