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Damar Hamlin collapses on field; Bills-Bengals temporarily suspended
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Posted on 01/02/2023 6:34:29 PM PST by V_TWIN
CINCINNATI -- Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin was taken off the field in an ambulance after receiving treatment on the field for over 10 minutes, which resulted in the game between the Buffalo Bills and- Cincinnati Bengals being suspended until further notice Monday night.
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To: Treeless Branch
Now 2 hours later - as many of us have predicted - this routine play is being described as a “brutal” and “viscous” play. That's because they stopped showing the replay of the tackle right after it happened, which let the hyperbole grow and grow and grow into what they wanted it to be.
This isn't the Joe Theismann hit. It was a normal tackle.
-PJ
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:00:39 PM PST
by
Political Junkie Too
( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
To: Jane Long
Me too! I’ve got to find a way to not be so hectic before Christmas!
But I had wonderful time with my daughters. Still waiting for that grand kid though!
All the best to you in this new year!
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:01:18 PM PST
by
EarlyBird
(There’s a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
To: dfwgator
It’s typical. Usually after cardiac arrest there is a period of therapeutic cooling (around 24 hours) where the patient is deeply sedated and no neurologic assessment is attempted. More will be know. when they warm him and lighten the sedation. Generally a full 48 hour is given before any conclusions are drawn on the extent of neurological damage. There is little to say before then although early recovery is always a good sign. Prayers are the best action now
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:02:46 PM PST
by
Mom MD
( )
To: shadeaud
I say it’s the blood clot from the dann shot
Let’s say the shot has the effects of the worst of the claims. Let’s even say that he’s had the shot.
Even with those stipulations, you or we don’t have the evidence to reasonably conclude that the shot is the cause for his situation.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:04:36 PM PST
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: Mom MD
Yep, sounds like that’s all that can be done for now.
I have to believe the NFL and the crew at the stadium were top-notch and he got the best care possible.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:05:38 PM PST
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: shadeaud; gas_dr
I wonder, could it be a combination of both? He has a heartbeat now but is not breathing on his own. The collision could stop his heart and the clot shots might be implicated in the lung function. Ask gas dr, he would have more knowledge in this area.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:06:14 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: pollywog
It’s just our job to pray, not to try and figure out others prayers. Not our concern. The concern is the young man. Ffs.
To: Eccl 10:2
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:10:31 PM PST
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
I’m not a football fan. Is that an unusual hit?
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:10:52 PM PST
by
gitmo
(If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
To: gitmo
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:15:43 PM PST
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: gas_dr
Since you mention timing, let me ask you some questions about that, and I'd appreciate a learned response.
- The heart beats how many times per minute, especially when stressed like during a football game? Is 60 BPM normal or high? Is 120 BPM what happens during a football play?
- Pick your stressed BPM, I'll stipulate to it. But for my example of 120 BPM, that's 2 per second, right? One beat per half second, a half-second per side?
- Given the "window of opportunity" for a "bad timing" hit to the chest, what is that exactly in football terms?
- Given the rapid rate of heartbeats and *my* hypothesized infinitesimally small window of opportunity for a bad hit, and assuming that a hit by a helmet of head-size (or shoulder-pad sized) impact spreads across the rib-cage and not the heart directly, how does a wide blunt force hit a rapidly beating heart at *exactly* the moment to cause this condition that has never happened before in all of the NFL games that were played since we can remember?
- How come elbows to NFL players who are rebounding, or batters who were hit by a 95 mph pitch, have not caused a similar incident in their respective sports when those players are not wearing the padding that NFL players wear to absorb blows?
In other words, can you medically explain in layman's terms what the window of opportunity is to have a blow cause the condition you're assuming? Because to me, it seems like an extremely remote timing of "between beats" which should be fractions of a second when other players in other sports have also received blows and nothing like this has ever happened in American sports, that we know of.
-PJ
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:16:44 PM PST
by
Political Junkie Too
( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
To: M_Continuum
I agree, and I will pray for the young man right now at the side of my bed.
Good night, all!
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:17:56 PM PST
by
EarlyBird
(There’s a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
To: gitmo
Not at all. Pretty tame, actually.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:19:01 PM PST
by
ponygirl
(An Appeal to Heaven )
To: lepton
But there certainly was signficant force applied to the chest area. Moreso than what you would see on most hits.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:22:19 PM PST
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: gitmo
“ I’m not a football fan. Is that an unusual hit?”
Nope. I was a very average hit. Not particularly hard or unusual at all.
To: gas_dr
My guess would be cardiac arrest then a stroke which effected his nerve messaging between lungs and brain stem.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:24:46 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: EarlyBird
No doubt, Early Bird.
It’s after midnight, I’m out.
Despite his comment above, the gas_dr (perhaps an anethesiologist from that handle) started this - not me - by calling others ‘idiots’; when they didn’t immediately buy his remote diagnosis.
In any event; all my posts are still up (so far); and his post 124 to me was pulled by the moderator, because it was exactly as abusive as I read it to be.
He assigns me an agenda I don’t have. And accuses me of wishing people dead. But, whatever. Expected, based on the rest of his assumptions here.
To: Political Junkie Too
I would think you would also hear of such incidents in Rugby since certainly they would have to absorb those same kind of hits, and without any kind of padding.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:29:06 PM PST
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Osage Orange
The second one they called my wife and said they had done everything and just come down to say goodbye and tell them when to turn off the machine. Twenty minutes later the heart started again and two days I am joking with the doctors and nurses.
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posted on
01/02/2023 9:34:08 PM PST
by
bray
(My book, The Republic of Texas explains everything )
To: lepton
Hamlin was tackling Higgins. Not the other way around.
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