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On To The Great Future Of Offshore Wind Power
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 19 Dec, 2022 | Francis Menton

Posted on 12/20/2022 4:03:49 AM PST by MtnClimber

Today was a big day on the way to New York’s energy future: Our “Climate Action Council” voted to approve the final “Scoping Plan,” telling us all how we are going to achieve, among other goals, 70% of statewide electricity from renewable energy sources by 2030 and a zero-emission electricity system by 2040. The press release has the headline “New York State Climate Action Council Finalizes Scoping Plan to Advance Nation-Leading Climate Law.” Here also is a link to the Scoping Plan itself.

Taking a look at the Scoping Plan and its Executive Summary, I find that the two biggest elements in getting to this zero-emissions electricity system are supposedly going to be offshore wind turbines and energy storage. I’ve covered the energy storage issues extensively in other posts. But how about this offshore wind thing? Surely, to commit New York to transitioning to using offshore wind as the primary source of electricity only seven years from now, they must have a very solid game plan for how it is going to happen.

Actually, as with everything else here, they have no idea. As of today, there isn’t a single functioning offshore wind turbine in New York State, nor is there a single offshore wind turbine under construction. The climate cultists on the Climate Action Council think that they can just order this up, and then it will happen.

From the Executive Summary, here is what the CAC says will be necessary to achieve its emissions goals:

[The Scoping Plan] requires that the State install: 6,000 megawatts (MW) of distributed solar by 2025

3,000 MW of energy storage by 2030

9,000 MW of offshore wind by 2035.

That 9,000 MW of offshore wind might initially sound like a lot. At 10 MW per turbine (huge), that would be 900 of these behemoths.

The EIA gives the total annual amount of electricity consumed in New York State for 2021 as 141,423,778 MWh. Divide by 8760 (hours in the year) and you get average demand of 16,144 MW. 9,000 MW starts off sounding like more than half of that. Not bad!

But of course wind turbines only generate at about 35% of capacity averaged over the year. So this 9,000 MW of offshore wind turbines will at best give us an average of about 3,000 MW, so well under 20% of our electricity demand for the year. Oh, and they’re planning to double electricity demand by electrifying cars and home heat, so make that 10%. And peak demand is as much as about 25,000 MW, 50,000 MW after doubling. When the peak hits you can’t count on the 9,000 MW of offshore wind for anything,. So why are we doing this again?

Undoubtedly, if this were being done competently, there must be a working demonstration project to show how the offshore wind will be built and then integrated into the existing system? Wrong. Rather, the plan appears to be to let some gigantic subsidized contracts and then hope that something gets built some day.

Here is a link to the website of the New York Energy Research and Development Agency (NYSERDA). They claim to have 4300 MW of offshore wind projects “under active development” in the state, which is less than half of the 9,000 MW supposedly coming. Of the 4,300 MW, almost all is in the Atlantic Ocean off New York City and Long Island. Here is the key piece of their map:

But go to the Empire Wind website, for example, and you find a timeline indicating that they are just about up to the point of submitting applications for permits to federal and state authorities. Construction — if it ever actually occurs — is multiple years in the future. Nothing different over at the Beacon Wind website.

And what if well-funded environmental opposition emerges to these projects? That is almost inevitable. As an example, there have already been lawsuits by wealthy homeowners seeking to prevent cables from these windfarms from making landfall in their areas. Here is an example of one such brought in 2021 in the Town of East Hampton.

Is there any offshore wind project farther along than these from which we can get an idea how things might develop? Yes, there is the Commonwealth Wind project in Massachusetts, off the coast of Martha’s Vineyard. That one was approaching the start of construction, when in September the contractor told the state that it would need to “rewrite the contracts” because of a sharp increase in costs. On Friday (December 16) the contractor gave up on renegotiation efforts, and said it wants out of the contracts altogether. James Freeman of the Wall Street Journal has the story in his Best of the Web column today, relying on reporting from Jon Chest of the Boston Globe:

The state’s nascent offshore wind industry suffered a big setback on Friday when Avangrid told state regulators it wants to end its contracts with three major utilities to build a massive wind farm south of Martha’s Vineyard... In September, chief executive Pedro Azagra said Avangrid would postpone construction of Commonwealth Wind, which could eventually provide enough power for up to 750,000 homes, by pushing its completion date out to 2028, and would need to rewrite the contracts because of a sharp increase in commodity costs. With Friday’s move, Avangrid has given up on those renegotiation efforts.

Meanwhile, again from Freeman, over in Rhode Island, regulators are considering suspending a permit already granted for a cable to bring ashore power from another project called Mayflower Wind. The issue there is not the environmental impact of the cable, but rather the financial viability of the whole project:

Rhode Island utilities regulators are considering suspending Mayflower Wind’s application for transmission cables that would run up the Sakonnet River to the former site of the Brayton Point Power Station in Somerset after the developer raised questions about the financial viability of the first phases of the $5 billion offshore wind project it has proposed off Massachusetts.

Is there any chance that New York will fare any better? Unlikely. Expect long delays and demands for lots more money before anything gets built.

Meanwhile, what is the total number of offshore wind turbines currently operating the the U.S.? According to Wikipedia here, the number is 7 — 5 for Block Island (part of Rhode Island) and 2 off Virginia. The same article says the Biden Administration plans to increase the capacity of offshore wind by around a factor of over 1000 by 2030. Sure.

Oh, and meanwhile, the 3,000 MW of energy storage mentioned in the Scoping Plan is well less than 1% of what would be needed to back up a predominantly wind/solar electricity system without fossil fuel generators. The whole thing is a fantasy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: greenenergy

1 posted on 12/20/2022 4:03:49 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Wow, that is a lot of bird choppers!


2 posted on 12/20/2022 4:04:04 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

My first thought, too.


3 posted on 12/20/2022 4:06:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Scamming Plan would be more accurate.


4 posted on 12/20/2022 4:09:39 AM PST by FreedomForce
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To: MtnClimber

And…

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/12/19/biden-to-end-natural-gas-use-in-federal-buildings-n1654837

A huge nat gas deal to the CCP is in the works


5 posted on 12/20/2022 4:11:11 AM PST by combat_boots ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Has nobody considered unicorn farts to generate electricity for the Tesla’s


6 posted on 12/20/2022 4:12:11 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: MtnClimber

>70% of statewide electricity from renewable energy sources by 2030 and a zero-emission electricity system by 2040.

My immediate reaction was “Do the people putting this crap into press releases also believe in faeries and unicorns?”

Say it in conversation every time this stuff comes up: You can’t power modern civilization with wind and solar. Anyone claiming you can, ask where there’s a large-scale demonstration project. They don’t have it.

What is happening with energy policy is extraordinarily dangerous and will lead to much pain, suffering And poverty.


7 posted on 12/20/2022 4:24:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MtnClimber

And it will only cost 100 times the estimate and take 50 years to complete...if ever.


8 posted on 12/20/2022 4:34:48 AM PST by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: MtnClimber

As stated in the article, Virginia has two offshore turbines and is planning a lot more. I certainly hope they are paying attention to these setbacks in New York and New England. That said, facts tend to be ignored in these situations. Good intentions and emotions are what motivates wind power proponents. I predict a bold march towards catastrophic failure with Virginia rate payers on the hook for decades. Hope I’m wrong. :-(


9 posted on 12/20/2022 4:48:35 AM PST by Don@VB (THE NEW GREEN DEAL IS JUST THE OLD RED DEAL)
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To: MtnClimber

Notice no nuclear, geothermal, or hydroelectric power is on the table. All wind and solar.


10 posted on 12/20/2022 4:48:53 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: MtnClimber

The carbon they want to reduce, is you.


11 posted on 12/20/2022 4:50:05 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: combat_boots

We will keep ours in the ground. Russian/Soviet natgas and oil will flow freely to the CCP though and Hunter will collect on it.


12 posted on 12/20/2022 4:50:34 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: FreedomPoster

You can’t power modern civilization with wind and solar.

Let’s bring back the age of sail, you don’t see them
calling for that!


13 posted on 12/20/2022 4:54:28 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MtnClimber

There are folks who can never even master the most simple freshman level STEM classes. They drop out early, or receive their Fs and then transition to classes where there are all As and little IQs. They are future politicians.

Those are the ones pushing idiot plans like this.


14 posted on 12/20/2022 5:09:26 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: MtnClimber
Going offshore always adds to the risks & expense (think 'offshore oil'). And the NIMBYs never want anything to "spoil the view"...

;^)

15 posted on 12/20/2022 5:14:46 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: MtnClimber

NY will eliminate the SALE of natural gas appliances by 2030, meaning that if you have a gas furnace, water heater, and stove, there’s a damn good chance that you will need to spend on the order of $50k to re-wire your home (including the utility feed), should any of them break.

Given that, if I lived there, I’d replace my gas appliances as soon as possible, and then buy backup units and either store them, or break them up and keep the critical parts.

Also keep in mind that HVAC and plumbing contractors will likely be forbidden to repair these appliances after 2030, so a few trade school classes might be in order too.


16 posted on 12/20/2022 5:17:41 AM PST by BobL
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To: MtnClimber

Global Warming hurricanes are going to have some new targets. This could get to be a lot of fun to watch.


17 posted on 12/20/2022 5:29:29 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Amerika! The whole world is watching and laughing their asses off. )
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To: MtnClimber

Good summary of why the whole enterprise is a scam. The people enriching themselves know full well this is a scheme that will never achieve anything.


18 posted on 12/20/2022 6:02:35 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative )
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To: MtnClimber

Consider the effects of a hurricane or even a nor’easter bearing down on these windmills. While windmills get shut down in high winds to avoid their blades from self destructing, the effects of wind and water will likely be devastating.


19 posted on 12/20/2022 9:13:02 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
Consider the effects of a hurricane or even a nor’easter bearing down on these windmills.

Yep...Sorry subjects, no electricity for five years. And BTW, we are raising your taxes to pay for repairs.

20 posted on 12/20/2022 9:18:39 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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