MASSIVE RUSSIAN MISSILE AND DRONE ATTACK

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[Cathi]

Intel Slava Z, [11/14/2022 9:48 PM] 🇺🇲🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The State Department is preparing the basis for the start of possible negotiations between the Russian Federation and Ukraine - Politico sources

According to the publication, officials in the United States disagree on whether Kiev should resume dialogue with Moscow.

Intel Slava Z, [11/14/2022 9:37 PM] 🤡 Zelensky, in his video message at the G20 summit, said that there would be no “Minsk-3” between Russia and Ukraine, once again demanded that Russia confirm the territorial integrity of Ukraine, withdraw troops and pay reparations

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 3:04 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️Peskov: Ukraine cannot and does not want to negotiate, the special operation will continue

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 3:06 AM] 🇷🇺 Fresh statements by Patrushev on the topic of the war in Ukraine and the prospects for negotiations.

•The goal of the United States is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy Russia, using the puppet regime in Kiev as a battering ram.

•The United States in the new national security strategy consolidates superiority over other countries and is ready to do anything for its goals.

•The tasks of the special operation will be fulfilled, despite the military assistance to the Kiev regime from the West.

•The United States and its allies play off the peoples, push the world into a global war

Intel Slava Z, [11/14/2022 8:14 PM] 🇷🇺🇮🇷 The head of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, Naryshkin, flew from Ankara to Tehran after meeting with the head of the CIA, Burns

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:20 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦❗”There is a mass launch of X-101 missiles in Ukraine with Tu-95 bombers from the Volgograd-Astrakhan region. More than 40 missiles” - Ukrainian media

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:20 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Explosions are reported in Zaporozhye

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:25 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Air alert announced in Kiev

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:33 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Air alert also announced in Zhytomyr, Cherkasy, Vinnytsia and Kirovohrad regions of Ukraine

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:35 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Ukrainian resources also write about launches from the Black Sea.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 4:57 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡ Air alert throughout Ukraine

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:00 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Eyewitnesses report missiles flying over Kharkiv.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:02 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦 2 rockets towards Poltava from Sumy.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:14 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Explosion reported in Kiev

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 5:15 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Reparation arriving from Russia

🔥🇺🇦In Ukraine, they reported launches of “Caliber” from the Black Sea by ships of the Black Sea Fleet and launches of cruise missiles by long-range aviation aircraft from the Caspian Sea region.

Russian strikes hit Ukrainian military targets

Footage captures moment Russian KAMIKAZE DRONE flies straight into Ukrainian army target, as wave of Russian strikes land across Ukraine, and air alert sounds in ALL regions of Ukraine.

Air defenses at work in Kiev, with smoke rising from Ukrainian capital as missiles THUNDER overhead.

6 posted on 11/15/2022, 5:29:53 AM by Cathi [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: Cathi ⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Missiles were spotted over the Poltava and Cherkasy regions

More explosions in the Kiev region

Over 40 missiles strikes at Ukrainian targets conducted by Russia in a single day, in the largest strike in the past 1-2 weeks, including at Kiev (see video for in example). Missiles noted over Sumy, Poltava, Dnepropetrovsk.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:27 AM] 💥The rocket flies to Zaporozhye! Meet the Khokhols!💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:28 AM] 💥Five rockets from Kakhovka to Nikolaev💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:31 AM] 💥In Kyiv, air defense shot down a multi-story booth of crests 💥 It is reported that this is a five-story residential building.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:31 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Information about missiles flying from Kherson region to Nikolaev⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:35 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Explosion reported in Poltava region⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:36 AM] 💥4 missiles are flying towards Vinnitsa. 1 towards Krivoy Rog.💥

Ukrainian sources report a massive attack.

Ukrainian media reports say that this attack is much more powerful than the Ukrainian terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge. Most likely, NATO intelligence warned them about this. The public writes about the huge number of missiles fired—more than 70.

We are monitoring the situation.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:43 AM] ⚡Air defense gave a complete fu#k to a residential building in Kiev⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:44 AM] 💥More missile launches!

▪️3 on Nikolaev. ▪️1 on Zhytomyr. ▪️3 on Zaporizhzhya.💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:46 AM] 💥2 rockets over Ternopil💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:47 AM] 💥 Air defense works in Vinnitsa. Fu#ked Vinnitsa💥

Missiles and nukes, [11/15/2022 5:44 AM] 👍🔥 Kiev

Zeli offered a peace deal during G20 , he got the answer today . It might mean nope 😆

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:48 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk region - explosions⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:52 AM] 🚨💥New missiles spotted over Ukraine!

▪️There are 2 over Vinnytsia region. ▪️Over Cherkasy region - 2. ▪️Over Kyiv region - 1. ▪️And one more - near Kropyvnytskyi.💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:53 AM] 💥Cherkasy and Khmelnytsky regions - explosions💥

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:44 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Arrival in the Pechersky district of Kiev is confirmed. This is the very center. The vaunted NATO air defense systems were unable to cover the center of Kiev

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:50 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions are reported in the Poltava, Vinnitsa, Khmelnytsky, Cherkasy and Dnepropetrovsk regions

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:58 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Ukrainian authorities announce the launch of the third wave of missiles from Russia

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:48 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk region - explosions⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:52 AM] 🚨💥New missiles spotted over Ukraine!

▪️There are 2 over Vinnytsia region. ▪️Over Cherkasy region - 2. ▪️Over Kyiv region - 1. ▪️And one more - near Kropyvnytskyi.💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:53 AM] 💥Cherkasy and Khmelnytsky regions - explosions💥

⚡️ Kiev residents capture building ALBAZE as multiple clouds of smoke rise from Ukrainian capital, following Russian strikes (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8590) with cruise missiles and kamikaze drones on Ukrainian military targets across country.

UPDATE:🗣 Residential building in flames a result of downed Ukrainian air defense missile while it was attempting to take down Russian warhead aimed at critical Ukrainian infrastructure, unknown number of casualties have been reported – adviser to Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry.

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️Powerful explosion in Odessa region, Ukrainian media report

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:01 AM] ⚡️It is reported that 10 cruise missiles from the Black Sea are flying towards Vinnitsa and, probably, Western Ukraine through Pervomaisk.

⚡️New explosions in Khmelnitsky region.

⚡️Repeated explosions in Vinnitsa region.

-ukraina_ru

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:06 AM] 💥Three explosions thundered in Kharkiv, Ukrainian media report

-Zvezdanews

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:07 AM] 💥 Explosions in Krivoy Rog

Footage from Zhytomyr appeared - local residents heard loud sounds of explosions there

Footage appeared from Zhytomyr, where the arrival was recorded. The city has now lost power and water.

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:50 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions are reported in the Poltava, Vinnitsa, Khmelnytsky, Cherkasy and Dnepropetrovsk regions

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 5:58 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Ukrainian authorities announce the launch of the third wave of missiles from Russia

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 6:05 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions in Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Cherkasy and Khmelnytsky regions

Anti-NATO Coalition [ZOV], [11/15/2022 6:08 AM] ⚡️🇺🇦 Explosions in Rovno and Lvov regions

[ Album ] ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian media report launch of 3rd wave of Russian missiles

Smoke rises from Russian strikes (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8590) in Odessa region, South Ukraine, with explosions captured in Cherkasy and Kiev regions, Central Ukraine, Kharkov region, East Ukraine, and Lvov region, West Ukraine, as Russian military strikes Ukrainian army targets and critical infrastructure.

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 5:59 AM] 💥🚨Rockets over Odessa and Lvov💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:01 AM] 💥🚨Odessa💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:02 AM] 💥🚨New explosions in Kiev🚨💥

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:03 AM] Cherkassi💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:04 AM] 💥🚨7 missiles towards western Ukraine, 1 towards Kiev💥🚨

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:18 AM] 🚨🚨🚨 Kryvyi Rog ⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:18 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Kiev and Lvov are partially de-energized⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:13 AM] The first round of persuasion to the negotiations goes according to plan

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:14 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Explosions reported in Lvov

Lights out in the city⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:16 AM] 🚨🚨🚨Again explosions Krivoy Rog, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Vinnitsa....⚡⚡⚡

IL RUSSO 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺, [11/15/2022 6:20 AM] 🚨💥‼️All major Ukrainian cities hit, infrastructure destroyed, lights and water missing - Ukrainian social media and social networks.💥

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️A critical infrastructure facility was hit in Rivne, part of the city without electricity - authorities

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:24 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️A critical infrastructure facility was hit in Rivne, part of the city without electricity - authorities

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:27 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The moment of impact on an infrastructure facility in Zhytomyr.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:28 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Local authorities announce arrival at a critical infrastructure facility in Kharkiv.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:28 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Explosions in the Ternopil region.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:28 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡In Lviv, substations are apparently smoking.

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:29 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The consequences of two explosions, presumably in Khmelnitsky, were shown by local residents in social networks

Intel Slava Z, [11/15/2022 6:30 AM] 🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Explosions in the city of Kovel, Volyn region.

Intel Republic, [11/15/2022 6:13 AM] [ Album ] ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦 Ukrainian media report launch of 3rd wave of Russian missiles

Smoke rises from Russian strikes (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8590) in Odessa region, South Ukraine, with explosions captured in Cherkasy and Kiev regions, Central Ukraine, Kharkov region, East Ukraine, and Lvov region, West Ukraine, as Russian military strikes Ukrainian army targets and critical infrastructure.

Intel Republic, [11/15/2022 6:22 AM] [ Album ] ⚡🇷🇺🇺🇦 Blackout in Kiev from Russian missile strikes

Huge black cloud of smoke rises above Ukrainian capital as Russian missiles (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/8597) continue to wreak havoc across country including in Vinnitsa region, Central Ukraine, with metro in Kharkov, East Ukraine, shutting down due to power cut.

UPDATE: Power station hit by Russian strike in city of Rovno, West Ukraine, with resulting BLACKOUT in parts of city, while mayor of Kharkov, East Ukraine, says Russian strike hits critical infrastructure in city.

⚡Explosions in Lvov After the explosions, the city lost electricity.

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:35 AM] Repeated strikes are reported in Rivne and Kryvyi Rih, as well as explosions in the Zaporizhia, Volyn, and Ternopil regions. 

The video shows the result of missile attacks on Khmelnytskyy's energy infrastructure.The city is partially de-energised.

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:39 AM] ⚡️The attacks on targets in the Kiev Region continue - Minister of foreign affairs of Ukraine,D.Kuleba. Emergency blackouts have been imposed in the region.

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:41 AM] Russian Kalibr and X-101 missiles hit 15 regions. 5 additional Kalibr missiles are expected to be launched from the Black Sea.

— Archangel of Spetsnaz

Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:45 AM] Russian strikes continue in a massive campaign not seen in some time.

Additional strikes hit Lvov region. In Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk, power outages spread across district.

Lvov, Zhytomyr, Lutsk are also reported without electricity. The main track substations are disabled, paralyzing rail transport for the moment.

Two missiles per target. Efficiency of work on targets 100%.

17.25 UPD Vinnitsa, Cherkasy, Volyn there is confirmation of strikes hitting targets.

17.30 UPD Rovno strikes confirmed.

17.30 UPD Krivoy Rog strikes confirmed.

17.30 UPD Khmelnitsky, Kharkov strikes confirmed.

17.31 UPD Ivano-Frankovsk confirmed

17.31 UPD Kovel, Ternopil confirmed

17.33 UPD Kyiv target: buildings of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and operational command confirmed

17.35 UPD Kremenchug target: substation 750kV confirmed

17:35 UPD Sumy confirmed

17.37 UPD Poltava confirmed

17.41 UPD Odessa (Ochakov, Yuzhny) confirmed

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:49 AM] [ Album ] Zhytomyr strikes confirmed against electrical grid infrastructure.

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:50 AM] Lutsk, Nikolayev, Nikolayev region—electricity confirmed kaput. A further 20 missiles reported heading for the Kiev region.

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Slavyangrad, [11/15/2022 6:55 AM] Russian strikes continue in a massive campaign not seen in some time.

17.31 UPD Ivano-Frankovsk confirmed

17.31 UPD Kovel, Ternopil confirmed

17.33 UPD Kiev targets: Strikes on buildings of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and operational command confirmed

17.35 UPD Kremenchug target: substation 750kV confirmed

17:35 UPD Sumy confirmed

17.37 UPD Poltava confirmed

17.41 UPD Odessa (Ochakov, Yuzhny) confirmed

🇺🇦🔌⚠️ — 🇺🇦 Deputy Head of the Presidential Office of Ukraine: The energy situation is critical, emergency shutdowns are being introduced across the country

[MeganC]

I’m a Christian. That means I do my best to follow the Ten Commandments. You know, like the three that say don’t covet, steal, or murder.

Russia is doing all three.

Party lines are irrelevant to me.

[Cathi]

I spend 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, following this war intensely on 25 different sites) both Russian and Ukrainian. I posted those dozens of tweets the minute they showed up, one after the other...:-)

My country, The United States of America, is committing suicide. The Deep State has already partially destroyed America (most of us can hardly recognize it anymore) and they intend to finish the job to institute the one world government new world order.

I am strongly hoping that the proponents of multipolarity succeed in their effort. Our future depends on it. I think that is the only thing that can save us. Deep State is not going to stop on it’s own...it will have to be stopped.

[Vaden]

There are no more stupider people than Putinists.

[CarolinaReaganFan]

good info, thanx

[ganeemead]

"I am strongly hoping that the proponents of multipolarity succeed in their effort. Our future depends on it."

That is also the impression I get.

[ganeemead]

"I am strongly hoping that the proponents of multipolarity succeed in their effort. Our future depends on it."

That is also the impression I get.

[ganeemead]

... Massive list of tonight's missile and drone tally (the Rain of Ruin)...

Might just be my imagination, but that doesn't sound like Ukraine "winning" or anything like that...

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Then again, we see MicrtoPerv (Zelensky) attempting to set a record for chutzpah that will never be broken...

Can you picture Hitler in early 45 demanding that the allies "confirm the territorial integrity of Germany, withdraw troops and pay reparations"??

Do we need a "Rain of Ruin" Ping list?

[norsky]

isn’t it strange that the commies are the one prevent the world from being taken over by the WEF Globalist crazies? But if it works we should all be thankful

[fireman15]

You know, like the three that say don't covet, steal, or murder. Russia is doing all three.

So is Ukraine. There are bad people on both sides. People in Ukraine have been dressing up like Nazis and murdering their fellow citizens who are Russian speakers on a large scale for years. Ukraine has been putting the Nazi in Neo-Nazi for decades.

People from the Azov Battalion are not just some kind of freak show outliers... they are in leadership positions throughout Ukraine. They are Zelinsky's strongest supporters. They are the top people in Ukraine's military. These are the people we are giving $Billions to. Even the MSM hasn't been able to hide it, they just ignore it. Christians don't support Nazi filth and celebrate the murder of civilians. We are dirtying our hands by getting in bed with these people. Putting ourselves in the middle of this is nothing but folly.

Ukraine obviously needs weapons that can reach Moscow.

Advocating that we give Neo-Nazis weapons that would be used to target civilians in Moscow and likely trigger a nuclear holocaust is not a Christian thing to do. You are young and foolish as nearly all of us have been at one time.

[MeganC]

Russia started the war. And now Russia is losing the war.

And for the sake of argument let’s say that everything you just said about Ukraine is true.

Then that is who is beating the hell out of Russia.

[fireman15]

Then that is who is beating the hell out of Russia.

Russia has been pulling back for the winter. They are destroying infrastructure as they withdraw, ensuring that the public in Ukraine will lose their resolve to continue supporting the corrupt Neo-Nazi regime. Variations of this strategy have been used effectively by the Russians for hundreds of years. If you believe what is currently taking place indicates that the Ukrainians are now “winning”... you are very foolish. The Russians have a pattern of prevailing by outlasting their opposition.

The only exception that I am aware of is when the Russians gave up on their puppet regime in Afghanistan. Despite the troop withdrawal, the Taliban was not able to take over until the Russians withdrew their financial and military support. At that time the entire Soviet system was crumbling from within and supporting their regime became more costly than it was worth. Nine years after our allies the Taliban took control of Afghanistan, the United States invaded Afghanistan and we installed our own puppet regime, and the Taliban became our enemy.

Our foreign policy in this entire region has been bizarre, culminating in our absolutely disastrous and incoherent withdrawal. There is no doubt that this show of incompetence and weakness obviously helped to encourage the Russians to move forward with their “invasion” of Ukraine. Ironically the Russians are now recruiting US trained soldiers from Afghanistan to fight in Ukraine.

But no MeganC, unfortunately the Russians are not losing in Ukraine. The “sanctions” are helping them, their income from exports is up over 50% compared to last year. Putin has been gaining popularity not losing it, not just in Russia but in many other parts of the world. Thumbing your nose at the US while an imbecile is President increases Putin's street cred in many places.

Meanwhile Europe and the United States are suffering and losing interest in the conflict while their economies fall apart, and energy supplies run short. This has been a failed initiative to realign Ukraine with the West, something that Russia said repeatedly they would never accept. We are paying the price for failed foreign policy.

But you have no real interest or understanding in the history that led up to this mess, do you? You are content to believe whatever you are told and go along with whatever stupidity Biden and company foist on us.

[Cronos]

They are generally ethnically Slavs, but many have Germanic, etc Gene’s mixed.

Russians have Dinno Ugric and some Mongol tatar

[Cronos]

Fireman “Russia has been pulling back for winter”.

So, by your reasoning they have been pulling back for winter since April??!?

[Cronos]

“Variations of this strategy have been used effectively by the Russians for hundreds of years.”
Any examples of these 100s of years?

[Cronos]

That is an unsubstantiated state of yours. Where is the proof?

[Cronos]

Rinat Akhmetov has not been in politics since 2012.
In November 2021 Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky accused Akhmetov of being enlisted to help plan a coup against him by Russia.

Viktor Pinchuk isn’t a politician.

Vadim Novinsky is one.

The same with the rest.

[dennisw]

“err.. Poles ARE Slavs too you know”

Poles are Euro-Slavs. Russians are Mongol-Slavs. Poles and Ukrainians Slavs have more of a European sensibility than Russian Slavs.

[dennisw]

Fireman “Russia has been pulling back for winter”.________

They would love to due to the Kerch Bridge railway line being demolished. This is the route that supplies the Russian Army with vital fuels and lots more.
But the Ukrainians’ army is assaulting them with artillery and might make a major move on them. This depends on winter weather and how well the Ukrainian army is supplied.

The Kerch bridge will have to be taken out again and again.

[fireman15]

Thanks for making the effort to look up the names I provided for you. I presumed that I could count on you to do some basic research. Ukraine is a corrupt state; any oligarch such as George Soros may be wielding far more power than those officially recognized as politicians. Any billionaire who has called Ukraine their home at one time or another can be presumed in the interests of their own self-preservation to be a player in the local political game.

The mistakes in your perception are based mostly from placing importance on meaningless pieces of propaganda intended to shape your point of view and exploit people’s tendency toward confirmation bias. All wars have a propaganda component, this one seems to have an unprecedented amount provided by both sides. This is more of a sign of the times than an indicator of progress by either side.

Is this war going differently than what was expected by planners on the Russian side. Obviously! They were duped by incoherent foreign policy decisions made largely by the Biden administration. None of this would have happened if the Democrats had not been allowed to steal the 2020 election. But have the Russians been losing since last April as you declared in one of your recent posts? That is ridiculous. They have their own goals and measures of success that are unencumbered by political correctness or Western expectations.

Are the Russians anxious to end this conflict... it is hard to say. They have been pulling in 50% more revenue from their exports from less volume nearly all year long. Even our Western European allies have imported 20% more LNG (liquified natural gas) at much higher prices from Russia this year than last. Putin has been laughing all the way to the bank all year long as the West has implemented sanctions that help enrich him and hurt the West.

Putin truly is the “big guy” in Russia and his “cut” is likely much larger than anything that Joe Biden has even dreamed of. When the conflict ends with the damage already done to the worldwide economy, energy prices will drop. This means Putin’s share will drop. This is a perverse incentive to achieving “peace” in the region.

It is admirable that you have made an attempt to research the history of this conflict. Unfortunately sifting through the BS on the internet these days is nearly impossible. To gauge the actual situation, one must look at indicators that sometimes do not seem directly related to the conflict.

This morning while I was writing this, our power went out. We live near the foothills and when we have gusty winds the power often goes out caused by trees and limbs falling on power lines. We and our neighbors are accustomed to this. Within moments of the power going out I could hear generators running all around us. When my wife and I have been sleeping with the lights out, we have often heard generators before we realized that the power had gone out. The noise is an indicator. This year there has been a plethora of indicators that the situation in Ukraine is different from what Western news sources and politicians are telling us that it is. This also includes Wikipedia and other sources that you may believe are impartial sources of historical information.

[Cronos]

To your points

” Ukraine is a corrupt state; “ —> yes it is, however that doesn’t mean that we should cheer on an even more corrupt state - Putin’s state to conquer it.

Furthermore, Ukraine was moving AWAY from corruption and Putin didn’t like it.

And, more importantly to us - the conquest of Ukraine or vassaldom of Ukraine would have been exactly like the Munich compromise - giving Putin’s regime a green light to then attack US