Ping.
I don’t think he can afford to agree to this. This is an admission of defeat.
The problem on the Ukraine side may be the Black Sea fleet giving up Sevastopol as a base.
But I don't think Putin accepts it anyway.
let the river be the dividing line and put an end to what started out as a civil war...and it still is...
Because Zelensky/Ukraine would not come to negotiating table, thats why
Hopeful sign. I surely wonder who these intermediaries are ...
He can’t agree to this. If he does it is a capitulation, not a treaty / cease fire.
Why seven years for Crimea or NATO? What happens after that?
This would free up Putin to put his full attention against Russians.
I think Putin accepts and Donetsk and Luhansk become independent (read Russian), while Kherson and Zaporizhzhia become Ukrainian again, while citizens are given 6 months to move where necessary while the truce becomes final.
Then Ukraine promises not to join NATO and is declared neutral.
Otherwise more missiles fly into more electrical substations.
Those who have seen me on FR will notice that since Russian invaded Ukraine, I’ve been staunchly opposed to Putin’s Neo-Soviet Union, in the face of communist lackeys. But I wonder what the point of this “peace proposal” is. They stopped just short of demanding Russia allow Zelenskyy to play penis piano with Lenin’s corpse.
Let’s face it: after the war crimes of Petro Poroshenko, the seccessionast portions of Luhansk and Donetsk can never be integrated into Ukraine again. And the demand for Crimea is absurd. In 2014, Crimea wanted to be Russia. (although I’m sure they may be feeling more uneasy about it as Putin reverts to Sovietism.) Ukraine pledging to stay out NATO is pointless, since it’s obvious NATO will behave as if Ukraine is part of it. And treating Russia like the Treaty of Versaille treated Germany is in no-one’s interest.
Russia is exposed as a vastly inferior military force, which should be more concerned with keeping China out. The cost to their own military preparedness is irrepairible. Let Russia’s mistakes be her own punishment.
You actually posted up a Blogger with a dubious, at best, history and track record as a ‘breaking’ NEWS?
‘General SVR Telegram’
https://www.google.com/search?q=General+SVR+Telegram&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Seriously?
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You all have a lovely day.
But... but ... but ... wha’ happened to ‘Ukraine winning’?
why... because Winter is Coming???
BWAAAHAHAHAHA!!!
Who is the brilliant jackass that dreamed this one up?
Putin has to exit Ukraine unconditionally on his part. He is in no position to be dictating terms and his constraint on NATO is DOA.
I would think since the West is dictating terms to a defeated Russia it would include Russia withdrawing from Georgia too. Now is the time to make peace.