Posted on 10/07/2022 9:20:16 AM PDT by moovova
Another day, another price hike for the popular electric Ford truck. Buyers of the 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning can now expect to pay around $52,000, up another $5,000 over the most recent price jump. Taking into consideration some of the Lightning electric truck’s ownership costs, is this truck still a good buy?
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True dat. I wasn’t even expecting that story. I was thinking more along the lines of people trying to unload flooded EVs on eBay. Looks like they won’t even make it there. Boom!
“I’m waiting for the stories of EVs that ran out of juice during the evac.”
Very little of that happened. People left then at home and used their ICE cars so they could go far enough. That’s why so many EVs are ruined/catching fire after being left at home and being flooded.
How many batteries would it take to match the performance/payload/range of a Cummins X15 diesel engine with 300 gallons of fuel on board?
“F150 twin-turbo SuperCrew XLT”
We’ve got the 2019. It’s a tank...but we drive it everywhere. Great traveling vehicle.
I’ve been posting this for a while so if you’ve alrseen it i apologize.....I knew something like this would happen:
Consider this scenario:
A mandatory evacuation hits a gulf state or states and everybody with a battery car bugs out at approximately the same time.
Best case scenario there is the batteries were fully charged....at 300 miles out everybody is looking for a way to charge up.
If your fortunate enough to have been able to afford a tesla your gonna need at least 30 minutes to charge up IF you can find a tesla supercharger.....you and all your other tesla owner friends.
In the meantime a cat III+ hurricane is bearing down.
Since I do live on the Southeast coast, if I have to evacuate I suspect I’ll be seeing EVs scattered along the highway like so many discarded soda cans.
Not to mention it doesn’t take a full blown hurricane to knock out ELECTRICITY in a wide spread area.
I’m sure there will be no panic.
And there’s not gonna be a bunch of coal miners around to help push either.
I hear that at the new price, if fully charged, it may now make it home from the dealership.
You’ll never hear that.
It’s like the guy that was stuck on the highway in Virginia during that winter storm.
Don’t charge the battery all the way so you don’t damage the battery but you’ll get less performance.
Someone posted on another thread a few days ago: EV’s do not use electricity if they are not moving. If so, how do the radio, AC, heater, lights and any other electronics work if they aren’t using electricity.
Study Shows Electric Cars Become Practically Useless In Cold Weather ... One study by AAA suggested that cold temperatures can reduce the range of the batteries in most electric cars by over 40 percent.
So, I’ll be a bit suspicious of this guy saying that he lasted the whole night, in freezing temps, in his EV.
And given the fervor that EV owners and fluff-boys...quite a few on here...have, none of them will admit to their toy cars failing them. They’ll tell us until they’re blue in the face that everything was A-OK.
As you know, a lot of snowmobile riders have done that when stuck overnight far from help at below zero temps. You just drain some gas out of the tank, spill it on the machine, pull a sparkplug, crank the motor and your machine becomes a campfire.
Mine’s a 2016, low miles, got it off my Bil. Love the 36 gallon tank, close to 1,000 mile range on the highway!
Of course we here at FR have known that all along about all tax credits. But to see the Gaia priestess Dims on the EV forums realize it is fascinating. They're realizing that the Inflation Raising Act's removal of the 200K car limit for EV tax credits is prompting Ford to raise their price (now that people are willing to spend more for the Ford EV because it now qualifies for the credit). And some of them are also realizing that the tax credit is no good for the if they don't work and pay taxes anyway. LOL (It's a non-refundable credit. LOL)
No EV is a “good buy”. They’re a fad, and will be gone in 7-10yrs. Stay with ICE.
Driver was testing Lightning EV while towing an empty aluminum trailer and then returning with a Model A. Needless to say, the mileage "estimate" as he was driving was dropping 2-4 times faster than the mileage he was driving.
How long will EVs be insurable or at what price, given the propensity for fires?
“ Only a fool or rich person would buy an electric vehicle with all their problems.”
I am neither, and I own an EV. Not an electric pick up truck of course. That would be a really niche vehicle. I can imagine only a few situations where it would make sense. Now, my Ford Mach e is a wonderful commuter vehicle and since I drive less than 100 miles per day it makes a ton of sense for me in addition to my gasoline vehicles.
How can it still be a good buy when it was never a good buy to begin with.
You raise an interesting thought:
In a big hurricane, the electrical transmission and distribution infrastructure, being all above ground, gets flattened and take weeks, months or even years to rebuild. No power for your EVs while that infrastructure is wiped out.
Your fuel distribution system to gasoline stations is by truck. As long as the roads and bridges are open, you can get fuel delivered. The storage system is all underground and (hopefully) protected against flooding.
The libs and green kooks always yammer on about “resiliency.” Well, the liquid hydrocarbon fuel delivery system is a LOT more resilient than the electricity delivery system.
How long until EV’s will be mandated as required purchases?
I’ll post the same thing that I always post regarding my EV. For good battery maintenance you shouldn’t charge above 90% on a regular basis and don’t let the charge go below 20% on a regular basis. For my car, in beautiful weather that gives me about 150 mile range or better. If it is below freezing, as it was last winter, that range can be cut in half. The car does use a little energy when not in use, but when I went away for more than two weeks it went into energy saving mode and lost about 1% of the charge during that 16 days.
Coal powered? What are the cooling towers for?
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