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Posted on 09/21/2022 11:21:13 AM PDT by citizen

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To: dynoman

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4095050/posts?page=171#171


261 posted on 09/21/2022 7:24:12 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

Adding the onboard generator adds more complexity and more service center visits..


Diesel-electric locomotives and submarines demonstrate very conclusively that you are wrong. I doubt that you can name anything more reliable than either How many times have you heard of a wrecker being sent out for either one?

And they are not nearly as complicated as what an electric grid that can service every auto and every truck and every piece of farm equipment, construction equipment plus heat every house in the US would be.

The photos of lithium mines, mining for maybe a .01% of future needs (a guess just to make a point) should be enough to make any reasonable person ponder the difficulties.


262 posted on 09/21/2022 7:29:06 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: old curmudgeon

Me: “Adding the onboard generator adds more complexity and more service center visits..”

You: Diesel-electric locomotives and submarines demonstrate very conclusively that you are wrong.

Whatever ...


263 posted on 09/21/2022 7:39:48 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

See? You can’t seem to comprehend or follow the conversation. Probably because of your self admitted “limited knowledge base”, LOL!


264 posted on 09/21/2022 7:40:39 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: old curmudgeon

“And they are not nearly as complicated as what an electric grid that can service every auto and every truck and every piece of farm equipment, construction equipment plus heat every house in the US would be.”

Same grid that powers your house ...


265 posted on 09/21/2022 7:41:14 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

The cost of a Tesla is the equivalent of 17,544 gallons of gasoline at current average price here in Hellinois.

I don’t know of a single person who’ll purchase and burn 17,544 gallons of gas in their entire lifetime. Conclusion: the cost of a Tesla makes zero economic sense for damn’ near everyone.


266 posted on 09/21/2022 7:41:35 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TexasGator

Don’t act like you know what I think better than I do myself. That’s another logical fallacy.

Continue the conversation with the imaginary strawman you think is me.

Take care.


267 posted on 09/21/2022 7:43:17 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: usconservative

“The cost of a F-150 is the equivalent of 17,544 gallons of gasoline at current average price here in Hellinois.

I don’t know of a single person who’ll purchase and burn 17,544 gallons of gas in their entire lifetime. Conclusion: the cost of a F-150 makes zero economic sense for damn’ near everyone.”

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268 posted on 09/21/2022 7:44:14 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: usconservative

I’ve done this calculation many times — even with a much cheaper vehicle it makes no sense to switch to save on gas.

But a very large portion of the population is incapable of solving simple math problems. Especially EV fanboys.


269 posted on 09/21/2022 7:49:38 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: dynoman

“Don’t act like you know what I think better than I do myself. That’s another logical fallacy.”

Why do you ignore facts and post outdated information? Not because you are serious but just to argue.

I accepted your invitation for a serious conversation and you made fun of me.


270 posted on 09/21/2022 7:50:08 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

You continue act like an a$$. It’s not surprising, it’s easy from reading your posts you treat others the exact same way. I’m not the one with a problem, you are.


271 posted on 09/21/2022 7:54:06 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: citizen

Wait till you get your electric bill or need a new 30 k battery. Stay away. It’s a pig in a poke.


272 posted on 09/21/2022 7:58:29 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: TexasGator

None of the information I mentioned about the Tesla battery temperature control system is outdated, from my first reply to you about it.

None.


273 posted on 09/21/2022 7:59:06 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Why Do People Call Others Names?
Name-calling is common, and can done for several different reasons. Consider the context and the person who is name-calling. Here are some possibilities:

Poor Social and Communication Skills.
By calling you names, someone may be attempting to be funny, to engage conversationally, or to see what you will do. This is what I suspect was happening in my third-grade example above. People who name-call for these reasons may be trying to say, “Hey, talk to me. Interact with me. Laugh with me.” Oftentimes when people do this, they are smiling and teasing about other things.

Sometimes, people may call you a profane name to signal that you are a part of their group. They want to get your attention and see if you will connect with them. Profanity, although often offensive, is powerful. It’s breaking a rule. When people do swear, it’s a very visible violation of this social norm, and it gets people’s attention (whether positive or negative).

To put someone down, or to hurt someone’s feelings.
When people name-call for these reasons, it is a form of bullying or verbal abuse. So, if someone says, “Hey doofus, get over here,” “She is such a b-word,” or, “Jacob is such a dork,” they are likely trying to make themselves look more important or powerful. The name-calling labels a person as something negative without acknowledging or considering the feelings of the other person. By verbally stating “you’re bad” in some form, a partner holds power over the other person’s sense of self-worth.

An even more concerning reason that people call names is to threaten other people.
It is done as if to say, “If you don’t do what I like, I will call you names.” This kind of name-calling is verbal abuse, and a way to control others. These people often care very little about others. They mostly want things to go their way, even if it hurts people. They may use words like, “Loser, moron, dummy, overrated, stupid, thug.” Research has found that name-calling like this often damages the victim’s mental health, and causes physiological changes in the brain of the victim. It is a way of increasing influence through fear and manipulation. It is not healthy.

To deflect responsibility.
These people may use name-calling to avoid obligations or blame for things that did not work in their favor. When confronted with a short-coming, they may reply, “I didn’t do that, it was Mr. Fathead over there.” While others are reeling from the nasty words the name-caller just used, they often forget about the reason for the confrontation.


274 posted on 09/21/2022 7:59:23 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: kenmcg

“Wait till you get your electric bill”

And smile at not having to pay high gas prices!


275 posted on 09/21/2022 8:01:55 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

I don’t believe you are really a Texan because every Texan knows that its grid is barely able to keep up with present demand.

And what was that about California begging EV owners not to charge their vehicles a week or two ago?

You might read this and while reading it remind yourself that this is with only a very few EV’s compared to what the swamp critters are wanting to see.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2022/05/05/is-the-texas-grid-really-running-short-of-capacity-in-may/


276 posted on 09/21/2022 8:03:26 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: old curmudgeon

See my tagline


277 posted on 09/21/2022 8:04:46 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: dynoman

“The grid isn’t ready for large scale EV use.”

Yeah no sh!t, but what good is the grid without the generating capacity?

According to the BTS (https://www.bts.gov/content/us-passenger-miles) in 2019 the US logged 3.77 Trillion light vehicle miles. If one quarter of those miles were to be from EVs, at 27kWHr/100 mi that would require a continuous source of over 29,000 MW of power.

A decent sized nuke unit is 1000 MW.


278 posted on 09/21/2022 8:06:42 PM PDT by Btlg
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To: old curmudgeon

“And what was that about California begging EV owners not to charge their vehicles a week or two ago?”

That is fake news.


279 posted on 09/21/2022 8:07:18 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

Read the comments too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Nt5LNSvcM


280 posted on 09/21/2022 8:11:37 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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