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About those EV home charging systems...
self ^ | Sept. 21, 2022 | self

Posted on 09/21/2022 11:21:13 AM PDT by citizen

I've been musing re home EV charging. I have no expertise beyond common sense but there will surely be practical considerations involved...

Let's say we have a surburban family with mom, pop & children all driving EVs. How many can be charged at once? I am thinking a multi-EV charging system and the necessary electrical capacity to safely power it would both need to be heavy-duty and therefore quite expensive. ka-ching and then you get to pay the electric bill!

If this home only has a minimum power charging system requiring hours to charge a single vehicle, there would be EVs on that charger constantly - and squabbles about "I'M next!" Btw, the insurance companies will note these systems and surely raise their rates accordingly.

Scenario 2: Same residential home but Mom & Pop are travelling for a week. I can envision Junior or Miss Cutie Pie telling their friends "Sure, come on over! My parents are gone for the week, you can use our charger all you want." More ka-ching on the power bill.

On a concurrent note, I've read speculative posts on how once a residential neighborhood reaches sufficient EV saturation, the electrical distribution serving them will necessarily need to be strengthened to handle all the extra required capacity. Someone must pay up for these modifications.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: batteries; charging; ev; vanity
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To: rickomatic

All that sounds reasonable. “Let the consumer decide.”


161 posted on 09/21/2022 2:08:30 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Tell It Right

Does any house have 480v service?


162 posted on 09/21/2022 2:09:30 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: nascarnation

“Right now, we’re in kind of an early adopter phase.”

Right now we are in the insane propaganda and .gov cram down phase.


163 posted on 09/21/2022 2:09:45 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Replacement is one thing.
How long before we see a disposal fee.
I pay 20.00 a year for recycling trash.
They should pay me.


164 posted on 09/21/2022 2:10:34 PM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: uranium penguin

Where I have been working the past few months there are chargers in the parking garage. These EVs are lined up on every floor getting charged.


165 posted on 09/21/2022 2:13:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: old curmudgeon

And the farming equipment both small-farm and industrial sized. How many are there? A million? several million? idk


166 posted on 09/21/2022 2:14:07 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: old curmudgeon

The Left doesn’t envision EVs replacing ICE vehicles.

Their goal is to destroy society and western civilization. On the rubble they think they can build “The New Man.”

You’ll have nothing, eat bugs, and like it . . . or else.


167 posted on 09/21/2022 2:14:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: PLMerite

I posted numbers a few days ago on this site. Based on readily available numbers and simple math but the dude said all the data was fake.


168 posted on 09/21/2022 2:18:49 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator; CodeJockey

That’s a special cold weather lithium, not a normal lithium. Teslas have a pretty sophisticated way of warming up the batteries in cold weather.


169 posted on 09/21/2022 2:19:19 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: V_TWIN

In the FL heat, people stranded on the roadsides will die by the thousands.

But hey, the Left will consider it a twofer. Fewer humans on earth and they died saving the planet.


170 posted on 09/21/2022 2:23:32 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: dynoman

“That’s a special cold weather lithium, not a normal lithium. Teslas have a pretty sophisticated way of warming up the batteries in cold weather.”

GEEZ! Tesla is using LFP batteries

I guess you missed the first sentence ...

————————EV EV EV EV-———

When it comes to powering RVs, boats, golf cars and electric vehicles, or providing storage for solar power systems, RELiON’s lithium iron phosphate batteries offer several advantages over lead-acid batteries.


171 posted on 09/21/2022 2:24:01 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

“No place to park, no car, no need for a charger.”

I have long since learned I do not know everything and am willing to learn.
BUT have you even seen apartment complexes in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, etc., etc. Most units have 2 cars. In those cities for any kind of decent lifestyle you need a car.
Texas cities are not New York, Boston, San Francisco, London, Paris and other urban areas.
A few weeks ago the Texas grid came close to failing because of the high temps, it would have with the proposed EV load.


172 posted on 09/21/2022 2:24:28 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: nomorelurker

“Most units have 2 cars”

Where do they park them?


173 posted on 09/21/2022 2:25:36 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

https://www.tesla.com/en_AE/support/winter-driving-tips#:~:text=To%20maximize%20range%20and%20efficiency,optimized%20for%20cold%20weather%20driving.&text=We%20recommend%20leaving%20your%20Tesla,of%20power%20from%20the%20wall.


174 posted on 09/21/2022 2:26:28 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: nomorelurker

NYC - Most people don’t own cars


175 posted on 09/21/2022 2:27:10 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator
"Numbers" are easy to com up with. Reliable information is less easy.

On a thread a while back dealing with EV fires, someone posted an online insurance company graphic on the number of car fires that overstated the number of ICE car fires by a factor of 10 or more. A car magazine posted a lengthy article dealing with just that subject and that graphic in particular. This article meticulously went through the available data and laughingly concluded if ICE car fires occurred at the rate per that graphic, you could not drive to work without saying "Whoops! There's another car fire!"

176 posted on 09/21/2022 2:27:41 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: PLMerite

Read posts 12 and 13.


177 posted on 09/21/2022 2:28:27 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

What is your point?


178 posted on 09/21/2022 2:28:39 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: citizen

“On a thread a while back dealing with EV fires, someone posted an online insurance company graphic on the number of car fires that overstated the number of ICE car fires by a factor of 10 or more. A car magazine posted a lengthy article dealing with just that subject and that graphic in particular. This article meticulously went through the available data and laughingly concluded if ICE car fires occurred at the rate per that graphic, you could not drive to work without saying “Whoops! There’s another car fire!”’

Bet you cannot provide a link!


179 posted on 09/21/2022 2:30:16 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: TexasGator

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/winter-battery-heating.243093/


180 posted on 09/21/2022 2:30:36 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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