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About those EV home charging systems...
self ^ | Sept. 21, 2022 | self

Posted on 09/21/2022 11:21:13 AM PDT by citizen

I've been musing re home EV charging. I have no expertise beyond common sense but there will surely be practical considerations involved...

Let's say we have a surburban family with mom, pop & children all driving EVs. How many can be charged at once? I am thinking a multi-EV charging system and the necessary electrical capacity to safely power it would both need to be heavy-duty and therefore quite expensive. ka-ching and then you get to pay the electric bill!

If this home only has a minimum power charging system requiring hours to charge a single vehicle, there would be EVs on that charger constantly - and squabbles about "I'M next!" Btw, the insurance companies will note these systems and surely raise their rates accordingly.

Scenario 2: Same residential home but Mom & Pop are travelling for a week. I can envision Junior or Miss Cutie Pie telling their friends "Sure, come on over! My parents are gone for the week, you can use our charger all you want." More ka-ching on the power bill.

On a concurrent note, I've read speculative posts on how once a residential neighborhood reaches sufficient EV saturation, the electrical distribution serving them will necessarily need to be strengthened to handle all the extra required capacity. Someone must pay up for these modifications.


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KEYWORDS: batteries; charging; ev; vanity
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To: PLMerite

Read posts 12 and 13.

The grid isn’t ready for large scale EV use.


221 posted on 09/21/2022 3:21:20 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: citizen
here's the untold stabenow EV story...looks like “they” recreated the trip.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/henry-payne/2022/07/08/payne-tracking-time-cost-stabenow-ev-drive-d-c/10016380002/

222 posted on 09/21/2022 3:22:18 PM PDT by stylin19a (Why are a "wise man" and a "wise guy" opposites)
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To: PLMerite

Sorry those were on a different thread

I did the calculations for a local gas station pumping 200,000 gallons of gas and 700,000 gallons of diesel fuel per month. It would take a dedicated 30-40 MWs to replace that hydrocarbon fuel with electricity. That’s just one station in a small 100k metro area.


223 posted on 09/21/2022 3:24:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: V_TWIN

Ain’t That the Shizznitz!


224 posted on 09/21/2022 3:25:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: V_TWIN; Big Red Badger

https://bikingbro.com/best-10-speed-bikes/


225 posted on 09/21/2022 3:27:15 PM PDT by stylin19a (Why are a "wise man" and a "wise guy" opposites)
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To: dynoman

“The grid isn’t ready for large scale EV use.”

I absolutely agree with that. But that might be part of the plan.


226 posted on 09/21/2022 3:27:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PLMerite

Absolutely!

The NWO doesn’t want a power grid for 300 million cars in America, they want a grid for the 2 million cars of the Elites, and the Middle Class to disappear, with remaining serfs to live in high rises with meager survival services on site. Those not healthy enough to walk to their designated work places will be ‘disappeared’.

Sacrifices are necessary to fight Climate Change!


227 posted on 09/21/2022 3:38:04 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: dynoman

They know it’s not going to work. The idea isn’t to simply replace ICEs. It’s to restrict our mobility.


228 posted on 09/21/2022 3:38:10 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PLMerite

I’d actually like to have more people try the EVs. Many, and their friends, would determine they are not for everyone, everywhere, and might vote accordingly when they realize government mandates are not the American way.


229 posted on 09/21/2022 3:55:33 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: PLMerite

Did you see today some environmental treaty was ratified and Kerry and others were bloviating that it’s gonna keep the climate from warming 1/2 A degree by the end of this century.

Who’s gonna verify it worked?

Man some people are dumb.


230 posted on 09/21/2022 4:02:02 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: stylin19a
3 wheels ? wouldn’t that be considered a motorcycle ?

Actually, it's classified as an autocycle, like the Slingshot, or Spyder. You license it as a mnotorcycle. In most states though, autocycles do not require a motorcycle endorsement, or the use of a helmet. the Aptera comes with many safety features that we see in regular cars, like seat belts, and airbags. They plan to have independent crash testing done early in 2023, even though not required by the government.
231 posted on 09/21/2022 4:07:52 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: rickomatic

I’m too old to consider buying one but I think the three-wheelers with two wheels in front are cool. Perhaps they are more stable on turns, too.


232 posted on 09/21/2022 4:12:19 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: citizen

Liquified hydrogen and fuecells.
Fast fueling long distance. Fueling tech and storage and transport are some of the problems to overcome.


233 posted on 09/21/2022 4:43:19 PM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Where I live home owners can run their own branch circuits. It ain’t that hard.


234 posted on 09/21/2022 4:48:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: reviled downesdad

Liquid Hydrogen - doesn’t this require high pressures and/or very cold temperatures? And other factors...
https://cryospain.com/liquid-hydrogen-storage-learn-the-basics


235 posted on 09/21/2022 4:53:16 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Revel

The dedicated Rappahanock Power transformer at my house, which I do not share, has 12.5 KV-A stencilled on the side of it. Supposedley, I have 200 Amp service which is a joke because 200A times 220v = 48KVA. So the transformer I have is woefully undersized for the service I supposedley have.


236 posted on 09/21/2022 4:55:39 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: gibsonguy

“but it sure as hell won’t work for all “

Nothing works for all.


237 posted on 09/21/2022 5:15:36 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: dynoman

“It’s not out of date at all. What’s wrong with you why are you so obnoxious?”

It is out of date. I am not being obnoxious. Just telling you how it is.

You keep shopping on the web and you know nothing about the current technology yet you tell me what the current tech is!

GEEZ!


238 posted on 09/21/2022 5:18:50 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: dynoman

Whatever. Obviously the extent of your knowledge base on this topic is a picture.

GEEZ.


239 posted on 09/21/2022 5:21:20 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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To: usconservative

Several posts showing lower numbers. One post on a DIY for a few hundred bucks.


240 posted on 09/21/2022 5:22:48 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florida)
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